Expert opinions on Marciano VS Liston

Which positive comments are you referring to? It's just as possible that they are exaggerated too.

What is this obsession with punching power? You realize there is waaay more skill involved in knocking someone down not JUST punching power. Timing and accuracy are two very important aspects.

If you took a second to look you would see that the Marshall fight was what I was referencing as the hip injury. Bivins never had Charles up and down like a yo yo. Had him down but not like a yo yo. Your hyperbole is only taking away from your argument.

Charles was tough as nails. That's indisputable.

 

When you talk to Mcvey, get used to his antipathy toward accomplished white heavyweights.
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His double standards, and way out there opinions such as Marciano lacked one punch power is legendary in the forum.

Sometimes he doesn't know what he was watching. If you show him a video, he will correct himself, but it has to be video. Otherwise, you have no chance of him learning!

Other times he'll take a passage out of a book, and act like its infallible, but if you do the same, he'll get very defensive.

PS: Lastarza could have taken Liston the distance. Machen, Whitehurst, Marshal, and Summerlin took Liston the distance.

 

My favourite fighter is Jack Dempsey and my p4p all time fighter is Harry Greb,how does that reconcile with you stating I have an antipathy towards white fighters?

 

Liston would brutalize Marciano to a TKO victory

 

By picking Liston over Marciano?

You might want to check who I pick, ethnicity or race does not influence my thinking, furthermore my top two all times heavies ( probably before you joined the forum ) in Ali and Holmes were on the racy side and I'll leave it at that.

The poster you are defending here has multiple issues with others. I just chose to point out why.

 

I think this is very very general and should only be used as a very rough guide.
The outcome of any fight, especially at world level, depends almost totally on the two individuals ability to fight in a boxing ring regardless of any style be it boxer slugger swarmer.

 

Re-read it, " accomplished white heavyweights ". Do you really want me to repost some of your stuff.

The funny part is your rip Jeffries over the color line, but he actually fought an African American as champion and came back years after retirement to meet Johnson, but these posts from you out number Dempsey ducking Wills 50 to 1.

 

But I'm not going to.

 

Jeffries never defended his title against an Afro American. If you want to repost some of my old content ,help yourself but why not make a separate thread about it and whatever accusations you have regarding me? No need to hijack this lad's thread with your bigotry.

 

Yes agree to disagree, Ali lost to Frazier then beat him back twice. I can't remember which way round the 'style advantage' was meant to be but it proves the point that it can only be used as a very rough guide.
Ali and Frazier had completely different styles but were both world class. It came down to who could make there 'style' (if you like) work best so they could win each time they fought. It's the same with every fight there's every been regardless of slugger boxer swarmer.
It's how GOOD you are at implementing your 'style' regardless of type of 'style' imo