This month's Ring has an appraisal of Wladimir Klitschko,and his standing among the heavyweights of the recent past. Buddy McGirt,ex champ and ,respected trainer said,Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson beat Wlad. Rob Murray ,trainer of Eddie Chambers ,said Tyson would have stopped Wlad inside 5 rds "You have a guy who does not fight on the inside at all,he grabs and holds,and his eyes open up like golf balls when he gets hit . "You got guys who would have come at him and fought him on the inside and made him back up.Backing up is not what he does". Murray picked Ike Ibeabuchi as likely to beat Wlad."Anyone who can give you head movement,come in ,and be a murderous puncher would beat Klitschko. If you can get to the target ,and hurt him, I think he would forget everything that Emanuel told him"" When you get a guy who can come and punch ,and your whole thing is, I can't let him get close to me,If I let him get close ,he'll hurt me". Wladimir does not fight well when hurt,and doesn't take punches well". McGirt said Bowe would do well too, " big guys like that Bowe ate up,he ate their lunchbox" Murray picked a prime Holyfield to beat and , bust up Wlad." Anyone whose a big puncher and comes forward would give him trouble." Russell Peltz promoter and ,historian said,"he's not a top ten heavyweight of all time,hat would he do with Sonny Liston pumping jabs at him,I mean the Liston from 58/62? Peltz also picked the Tyson of 88 to beat Wlad ,and gave Frazier a good shot. Peltz picked Tim Witherspoon to give Wlad serious problems ,and asked,who has Klitschko beaten that a prime Witherspoon wouldn't have? Peltz stated that Jimmy Young would have found away to beat Wlad. What Say You ?
Going by the names they picked: Wlad vs. Tyson LKO Holmes LUD Ibeabuchi WUD Bowe WUD Holyfield WUD - close one, Holy might stop him late too. Liston LTKO - close one Wlad might win a decision. Frazier LTKO Witherspoon WUD Young WTKO 5 (1) - 4 (2) and I agree that he isn´t a Top10 hw - yet, he might end up there when everything is said and done.
I think that Tyson, Liston and Holyfield are good shouts. I don't like Bowes chances as much as many. I think we would have to favour Wlad over Ibeabuchi, Witherspoon and Young based upon what we know.
I don't know about the arguments at all, in fact some are quite laughable, not that it makes the picks automatically wrong. For example: Jorge Luis Gonzalez or Tyrell Biggs? That's about all I can come up with. I would be more worried about the Golota fights if I was a Bowe supporter. The difference is that Witherspoon would show up as an unmotivated slob to many of his fights and lose when he should not. That's why he will not be classed alongside Wladimir. Ibeabuchi belting out Byrd with a haymaker is about the only proof we have of him as a murderous puncher.
Liston's jab will never find its mark with Wlad. Liston will be severely outreached (in both ways and meanings) . Paper reach stats are even more exaggerated than the heights. Frazier & Liston will be both almost hopeless vs Wlad. Wlad would have beaten Ali & Holmes in their own game , same with Witherspoon . D 1s 2 whom I give realistic chances vs Wlad are : Louis , Foreman , Lewis , Ibeabuchi , Bowe . Tyson is borderline 4 me in this matter because I doubt his ability 2 reach Wlad often enough and flush enough - Wlad 2 tall 4 his elbows .
Sometimes half an inch becomes critical , it has to happen sometimes , I think this is where it will b. But if u read my post , u would not have come up with this reply bcause I explicitly stated that Tyson is borderline 4 me. Another factor is that Wlad is stronger and more methodically sound than the guys u metioned , and I was not deeply touched by the way Tyson got his decision over Tucker at least . Tucker toyed with Tyson in 1 of the rounds. Tyson had trouble with Smith , Douglas & Mitch green whom were even slightly shorter than d examples that u brought. And if Tillis , Fergusson & Ribalta could last as long as they did d way they did then .. where does your argument go from here ?
I agree. Of course, I might be wrong, but it is difficult for me to even imagine Young defeating Wlad. He just didn't have the punch to worry him. Someone like Liston, perhaps, because he could punch, but Young? **Still, it is wise to remember that Liston didn't fight anyone at all as big and as good as Wlad. I think Liston could end up eating the jabs. ***Ibeabuchi certainly gets a lot of milage out of two victories--one a close decision in which Tua took his best, the other a referee's stoppage of Byrd which I thought possibly premature as Byrd was making Ibeabuchi miss. And when did Byrd give Wlad any trouble? I think assuming Ike beats the very best heavies is a leap into the dark. ****I probably will get stomped on for saying this, but I think Wlad, and especially Vitali, would be nightmare opponents for Holmes. Larry has a shot at Wlad because of his shaky chin, but I don't think he has much of a shot at Vitali.
If I hadn't read your post, I would not have replied to it.:huh Tucker and Biggs were both much better movers than Wlad ,one got a beating the other fought to survive. Keep trolling.:good
agree. i scored the fight for tua anyway and if you can't outbox tua, you ain't outboxing ANYONE. he's down to a puncher's chance
Tyson, liston and frazier all beat him imo due to a stylistic weakness he suffers against tyson and frazier plus liston, for me, beats pretty much anyone. Larry is 50/50 for me they'd split a series. I can't believe ike and spoon were even brought up. I went into smith's on sunday to get this edition but it wasn't there :-( will look again at the weekend.
Wlad loses by T/KO to Liston, Holmes and Tyson. Wlad beats Riddick Bowe, Ike and Jimmy Young fairly convincingly. He's 50/50 with Frazier and the Witherspoon that fought Holmes to a razor close decision. In my opinion.
