Explain how or why you think Cotto would beat Mayweather.

Fair enough.

 

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your point was good and I understand where you're coming from but I think you guys need to remember that the skill set is not the same ... and PBF is too accomplished to not get the benefit of the doubt. I know people think that Cotto is the best opponent for Floyd and that maybe true -- but why not let Cotto get more pub and then let the fight happen.

Why should Floyd give a guy a fight that hasn't proven anything but that he can beat bums, over the hill fighters and gate keepers.

I think that he has to beat a champion for a belt and fight someone who's top 10 legit in the WW division. Yeah he's the number #1 contender but Floyd is the champion of the division.

He (cotto) has won two vacant belts and beat two guys that are viable opponents but at a times where they're most vulerable. He didn't take anything away from them, he just beat them.

Floyd has beaten more champions and has been fighting champions since he fought Mitchell back in 05'

Hatton, DLH, Judah, and Baldomir ... all brought something to the table and all were champions in their own right. No vacant belts, no stepping stones, guys that are proven.

Cotto's belt doesn't have clout or lineage ... why is he all of a sudden supposidly fighting better quality of fighters?

It doesn't make sense when Floyd beat 2 lineal champions and 2 alphabet champs.

Once again NO VACANTS !!

Cotto doesn't know what it takes to take a championship belt away from a champion ... a champion that has reigned, isn't going to give up his belt w/o a fight ... who will do whatever it takes to win ... a champ that will dig deep and not give up -- Cotto has been on the end as the champion but never the end of the challenger. Floyd has done that a numerous amout of times and each time made them look bad.

Castillo
Hernandez
DLH
Hatton
Baldomir
Judah

 

That's it man, you've taken the cake....I've heard some wild **** on this site but this was the best.....mainly because this was said with pure confidence and validity. Your innocence is refreshing. :smoke

 

Margarito who's solid but missed his chance at getting at Floyd by losing to Williams and not electing to fight Baldomir for leverage.
Cintron who's a champion and is about to defend it against Margarito --

They're both solid and both waiting for Cotto -- If he gets past these guys who are rugged and will not go without a fight.

 

so did Oscar and Winkey .. Mosely key to fame was his Overwhelming Speed and strength , he use he jab only to get on the inside he would let lose with a torrent of combo to the head and body, so the Jab was not a primary weapon for Shane like it is for oscare and Winky . So yes I can see Cotto out jabbing Shane ..

 

I'm not going to go back and fouth with you ... Williams hype was ahead of his skills ... I had Quintana winning ...

I didn't believe in him and new that it was only a matter of time before he lost or possibly got knocked out.

Watch that fight w/ Margarito v Williams again and come back and tell me you think that Williams put it on him.

Quintana's belt holds more lineage than Cotto's belt ...

We shall see whats up when Malignaggi gets crushed by Hatton and Torres loses his rematch to Holt.

 

is any fighter ever convinced they lost unless they get KTFO?

 

Who's PW? Another guy Floyd would rather not fight. Its all LOW RISK/Maximum reward. I'd favor PBF in such a matchup but Floyd dont wanna work, he wants it gift wrapped.

Try Quintana Floyd dont want none of that either

That **** dont cut it at ATG level:nono

 

If you don't get my reasoning then maybe you should check a few of my posts. Go onto my profile and look up any post I make about a pressure fighter versus a boxer. I've made tons of them.

And as far as that bull**** you put in your thread. I know that was just to get my attention. Don't be so insecure.

 

That was the blueprint to beat Shane ... a straight jab ... and faints ... Thats what Forrest did, Winky, and Cotto.

And Shane's defense is non existant ... despite being fast and powerful ... he took alot of punches throughout his fights with Forrest, Wright, and DLH.

Tell me when Shane posessed defense like FLoyd ... what fight was it?

When did Judah have defense like Floyd? ... he took alot of shots rather it was against Spinks, Baldomir, Mayweather, and Cotto.

Malignaggi thinks Floyd is the best fighter ever -- he's on record to saying that !!

 

Announced crowd for Mayweather-Hatton, 16,459. Announced crowd for Cotto-Mosley, 17,135. Cotto-Judah had well over 20,000 in attendance.

I guess opponents like Sharmba Mitchell and Carlos Baldomir were really capapble of packing the house, huh? The figures for Cotto's last few fights suggest he does have a decent sized following. Particularly selling out MSG against Judah, and the 400k + buys for the Cotto-Mosley PPV.

Not sold out, but only a couple thousand shy of being sold out, and still had more in attendance than Mayweather-Hatton.

When?

Not even Shane thinks that. He admitted he deserved to lose after the fight.

 

Biggest myth in boxing.:nono Oscar didn't get tired of throwing it PBF took it away from him by countering it.:deal

 

Trust me that's the smartest thing you posted today :good

What about Malanaggi vs Hatton and Holt vs Torres????? what's your point. Win or lose how does that affect a bout between Cotto & PBF??? :huh

 

You mean the bs I put in my post? I created that thread before if thats what you meant and don't worry i know im not insecure.

 

Okay. So Floyd is the champ. Because of reasons already clearly outlines some of us believe that Cotto has a reasonable chance of winning, although most would probably agree that Mayweather will be the odds on favourite.

None of these reasons's has anything to do with their past resume's.

HOWEVER, if you would like to bring that up, some of us would argue that neither resume at WW includes the best of the division yet, largely due to the fact that the best, two of them being Cotto and Mayweather, haven't fought yet! And this sporting being boxing, which involves boxers fighting each other, in a ring, some of us figure that perhaps they should fight in the near future. Since both fighters are busy at the moment, (some boxing, others dancing and what have you) this fight can take place in 2009 at the earliest. Do you want the fight to happen then? Hell, it will give Cotto that extra exposure Floyd is apparently so concerned about. Then we will have the pleasure of seeing the question settled in the ring, and we can stop speculating.