Explain how or why you think Cotto would beat Mayweather.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Shane, Mar 26, 2008.


  1. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And why is that? Because they limited the number of tickets available to the UK. Therefore, the remaining ticket sales were pretty much on Floyd.

    Based on what? Mosley has never been a draw. Even after fighting De La Hoya. Oscar himself pointed out how poor the attendance was for his two fights in Vegas after their first match. Even more recently, look at how many people showed up when he fought Luis Collazo. I think you're assuming Mosley is a draw because of the PPVs he did with Vargas. But that was Vargas pulling those numbers in. Which was the same case for Vargas-Mayorga.
     
  2. whit

    whit Active Member Full Member

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    It was in response to someone who started doing the comparison thats all. I agree with your last statement as well.
     
  3. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Ok, you're second point has some merit. I guess I should preface it with solid promotion as a requirement. Its sad to me the way the sport gets mismanaged.

    Yet Floyd's numbers werent high until he got BIG NAME opponents. Its next to impossible to like the guy for who he is and if he suffered a RJJ like KO? He'll never see those numbers again. Which is why he'd prefer to milk it for all its worth while he can.

    At some point though? An ATG career must mean more than the money and its safe to say, FLOYDS at that point.
     
  4. zarathustra84

    zarathustra84 Member Full Member

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    Yea. I think I just got annoyed with Fitz and you came along and I grouped you two together. That is why I pointed out supporters of Cotto shouldn't use that arguement because it just plays into that mindset which is foolish. So everyone is in agreement than? Cotto-Mayweather 2009!!
     
  5. whit

    whit Active Member Full Member

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    No I am not basing my assumption on the Vargas and Mosley fights and I basing it on the man at hand that is cotto's. His last fight on PPV did 220,000 ppvs. He fights mosley next and no you have 400,000+ppv buys. you don't think Mosley had anything to do with that?
     
  6. whit

    whit Active Member Full Member

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    I have been with the fight all along. In fact in one of my past post I out right said if Floyd and Cotto don't fight in 2009 you have to put that blame on Floyd beacuse he is the one that can make it happen anytime he wants.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Dream on. PBF behind Hopkins is the most mentally strong fighter in the game.:deal
     
  8. whit

    whit Active Member Full Member

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    As far as ATG status I couldn't agree with you more. I doubt if Floyd ever fights the Quintana's and the Williams of the bunch because he now expect 20 million dollar paydays. It's a shame yes but you know I don't even get mad at that because I already know the outcomes or I should say the most likely outcome of those fights so it don't bother me too much. If the fight with him and Cotto never hapens then I have a problem.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I'm here to set this thread straight.:lol:
     
  10. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Cotto is a must. The Quintana vs Williams 2 winner should be the next step. I believe thats Quintana and his style will pose serious problems for Floyd. Perhaps even more than Cotto because of his size. PBF isnt a horrific body puncher and would have very hard time playing his games with CQ.

    Floyd needs to make the statements in the ring, not in assumption.:good
     
  11. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I'm not saying that.. What I'm saying is he didn't have "a lot" to do with it like you claimed. Shane has always been a solid B-Side, nothing more, nothing less. Mosley-Judah coming 4 weeks after De La Hoya-Mayweather, a fight where most of it's 2 million + viewers felt cheated, had a lot to do with the poor PPV sells.
     
  12. whit

    whit Active Member Full Member

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    No most of those viewer who even watched the Floyd and Oscar fights were casuals fans. I don't think that was the reason the cotto judah fight did so poor. I felt cheated and I ordered the Cotto-Judah fight. Did you? If yes, most hardcore fan should have known that Cotto-Judah was gonna be a good fight but enough people were not interested. If people wanted to see Cotto-judah they would have ordered but enough people were simply not interested.
     
  13. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think some lukewarm boxing fans would have picked it up had PBF DLH not been such a dud and they would have been able to market it better had their marketing not been sidelined by the huge DLH PBF fight.
     
  14. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ummn..news flash, hardcore fight fans are not responsible for big number PPVs. Big number PPVs are a result of interest by the casual fan. The casual fan, being the very audience soured by a so called "fight" four weeks prior, which was being hyped to no end, and ended up as nothing more than an glorified sparring session.
     
  15. whit

    whit Active Member Full Member

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    Read the first sentence of my last response. I know that already.