Explain how or why you think Cotto would beat Mayweather.

We agree to disagree on certain points I feel PBF has not seen a fighter of Cotto's ability. The only fighter that even mimics one of the many facets of Cotto's style is Jose Luis Castillo.....still Cotto brings much more to the table with his deceptively fast hands, fluid combonations, ring cutting abilities, footwork, Jab, counters etc. etc. Its quite the intriguing match up, while I still favor PBF I am quite sure Cotto will be his toughest test and this fight will go down to the nitty gritty. I will officially reserve judgement on the matchup until about a month before the fight. Meaning I will look into my crystal ball and let you fellas now who will win a month before the fight.

 

I agree with that but I still don't think that's enough to beat Floyd. If Floyd stays in the boxing game long enough the only thing I see beating him is father time. He is just one of those type of fighters.

 

Oh and Cotto has never taken anyone's title ... he's been fighting for vacants ... he's never fought a guy defending his title and doesn't really know whats its like. Fighting against a guy defending his title is different from a guy fighting for a title.

I think that his corner is brand new and suspect ... his cut man isn't amoung the best and if he's cut against Floyd he's going to get stopped.

He can't out box Mayweather, being aggressive against Floyd has just shown guys getting knocked out. (except for Castillo who Floyd hurt his hands against in the first fight)

Cotto's only chance would be to hope to outbox Mayweather - because blind aggression w/o thought is going to get him potshot all night.

 

There is no such thing as that type of fighter. Everyone is beatable. A few years back it was RJJ, before him it was shane mosley, and someone else before that all the way back to forever.

There is always some supernatural talent that looks invincible seems to have everything but just runs into a brick wall and gets beat. One thing that we know for sure. Oscar is not that brick wall, but people keep paying to see Oscar vs Floyd like dumbasses so we don't get to see the fight that all the fans really want to see.

 

Caper what about the other way around? Do you think Cotto has seen a fighter like Floyd and his abilities? Cotto is more technical sound than Castillo was so I can see where you are coming from but at the same time Floyd has fought fighters with that same attribute as well IMO. And I agree with you when you say Cotto would be his toughest fight to date though Floyd has been in wars some people fail to mention.

 

Because he has the style to do so. People use Hatton as an example of how pressure fighting doesn't work, but that wasn't educated pressure which is the key to beating Mayweather. Castillo used educated pressure. Cotto is capable of similar, only he's a real welterweight.

 

Aside from the Corley fight where a slightly still green Cotto was trying to look like a bad ass in front of a screaming hometown crowd when have you ever known him to use blind agression. He uses calculaed patient agression. He punches from behind a defense, does not waste any shots and does not throw wild shots. People don't seem to realize that there is a difference between effective agression and blind agression

 

If Floyd does that he will be the one eating canvas, he'll get countered silly leaping in.

 

Exactly. Watch the finish to the Judah fight. Cotto's gloves are glued to his eyebrows. So disciplined, patient and effective. The boy is becoming a man and the man will become a legend :yep

 

I am not saying he is invincible by any means. I feel a there were more than a few ATG that would have beaten Floyd at WW. What I am saying is I don't think we have a fighter in or around the WW division that will be Floyd right now. I think father time is what will do it for him.

RJJ is a different story. There you had a Roy who was past his prime, lost atleast 20 pds of muscles to come back down to Light heavy and at his age your body won't respond correctly. Your reflexes starts to diminish and it takes time for your body to return to normal. The same case can be made for when Tarver did that rocky movie and he lost all that muscle to fight Hopkins. I am not saying the outcome would have been different but losing all that muscle clearly had a big impact on those 2 fighters at their age.

 

I can't imagine any fighter currently in the game that's seen what Floyd brings to the table. Cotto has been preped well he's been in with fighters that are considered faster than floyd some that are stronger than floyd....some that are just as slick. But no he has not been in the ring with a man of Floyds complete package....but neither has Floyd.

 

Cotto does not have a puncher's chance against Floyd. When a guy has a punchers chance it means that he caries enough pop in his punches to end a guy in one shot. Clearly Cotto is not going to do this against Floyd. Cotto has a pressure fighters chance of beating Floyd, which takes skill and wouldn't be a lucky or a non-decisive win.

 

Man take a look at the Genero Hernandez fight or the JLC fight ... don't think that Cotto is that special to where Floyd has never seen anything like him ... Floyd has been a champion since 98' and all styles.

cutting off the ring is pointless against Floyd because he's comfortable in every inch of the ring ... footwork/footspeed Floyd has the advantage ... he's 2wice as fast as Cotto and is more effective going backwards than Cotto is going forward.

Cotto's jab and left hook will get neutralized just like DLH's did ... you will wonder why Cotto isn't throwing it mainly because he can't find a target. All Floyd has to do is move to Cotto's right because Cotto has no power in his right and it will give Floyd a chance to counter anything Cotto throws with the left - with a right hand from every angle.

Cotto has never seen a fighter than uses angles like Floyd ... Cotto has never seen a fighter with the assortment of weapons that Floyd has ...

Team Cotto is new to this level and doesn't have experience ... I assure you that Cotto will be intimidated by Floyd once the fighters are announced. Floyd is bigger than Cotto from the shoulders and chest and is more defined ... I see Evangelista throwing in the towel just like Billy Graham ... Evangelista seen what happened to Bruseles ...

 

Hey that what makes this fight so great on paper though if we can't agree on anything else.:happy

 

Floyd is faster than any fighter that Cotto has ever faced in his career ... Cotto's reflexes aren't that great to counter the fast twitching Mayweather.

Cotto will tire himself out thinking that he doing something effective against Floyd.