Explain how your candidate beats Fury because I can't see nobody doing it

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  1. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not as simple as that,and who said Mildenberger was slower than Fury? I'd say there's not that much between them.
    Why not put the Ali who dazzled against Williams in there?
    Fury seems to have metamorphosed into some kind of ultra fast, power hitting, super being in your eyes.
    He's only fast relative to the size he is, he's still relatively speaking a plodder.
    Beat Ali? Get the hell out of here.
     
  2. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So blind by your nostalgia heroes you can't make a logical evaluation. Fury is alot like Ali, but supersized. Ali came on the scene with big questions about his chin, kdd twice and struggling with lesser opponents, then beat a hard punching champ by using his superior movement and size. Ali relied on his movement, size and savviness as his three best weapons in all his fights(and yes, for the range Ali was quite large and used it to his advantage).
    Fury used the same things. Assuming his win over Wlad was a demonstration of skill as it appeared to me and not just Wlad being suddenly shot, I see no way Ali would have a chance against Fury. Fury would negate everything Ali does by doing it all better.
     
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  3. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson Fury doing everything better than Muhammed Ali aka Cassius Clay. Hmm...

    I better start believing in parallel universes.
     
  4. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    no chance of anyone beating the Furious One
     
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  5. ZODIUS!!!

    ZODIUS!!! The certified boss banned Full Member

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    Tyson Fury is ultra fast and a power hitter stop hating on him your overrating ali
     
  6. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    what i like will fury, he usually makes his opponents quit, which is far worse than a KO. Delboy the warrior quit because he couldnt land a glove on fury, same for hammer, who just beat teper, also wlad looked to have quit when he fought fury, he couldnt land a thing on the Team Gypsy & Slick (G&S) Leader
     
  7. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    They could try but they ain't Dustin Nichols.
     
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  8. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson Fury is in Charles Martin land. There's no indication they will ever come back to fight. If he's the greatest he'll come back and prove it.
     
  9. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Williams? The guy not medically fit to pass any what would be modern medical exam? Is this what we are basing how good fighters look ? I used Mildenberger on the basis hes slow as slow ,no power and cuts easy (he fought Ali with one eye for 6 rnds (you claimed Ali was untouchable ) . Like Fury with why he caused Ali problems was his south paw style (thats all Mildenberger had to bring to the table ). Fury has angles and toughness , just like Ali lost in the amatuers to one so its a toss up of how Ali actually deals with it .Sorry if you think that Fury is inferior to these guys but in real coversation it wouldn't apply. Clearly a prime giant with better defense , speed and no health or injury problems is going to put up a better fight.

    I havent seen enough of Fury to actually give him edge on 1974 Ali but to make up as if its a mismatch just isnt logical .
     
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  10. ZODIUS!!!

    ZODIUS!!! The certified boss banned Full Member

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    The kings of men

    WE ARE THESE MEN!!!!
     
  11. ZODIUS!!!

    ZODIUS!!! The certified boss banned Full Member

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    Fury already proved he is the greatest
     
  12. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  13. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I honestly don't know what you people are watching. Sure for a 6'9" 18 stone fighter he's pretty nimble but alongside Ali he's simply a plodder, there's simply no comparison, Fury would not get near a 60's Ali simple as.
     
  14. andrewa1

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  15. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You used the Mildenberger fight as an example but Ali blew hot and cold on those European tours he messed around in a lot of his fights. Look at the first Liston fight a couple of years earlier when their was a real threat, he was nowhere near as careless or sloppy, he fought a lot of the time to just do enough depending on the level of his opponent.
    I used the Williams fight as an extreme example of Ali at his utmost best in terms of speed of hand, foot and no little power. Of course Williams was over the hill but he'd won his previous 6 fights, and was even that version of Williams any slower than Fury?