Explain To Me Why The General Concensus Is That Pacman Will Ko Cotto...

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Explain To Me Why The General Concensus Is That Pacman Will Ko Cotto... :think

    I personally dont know who`s gonna win but those that have already picked Manny, probably did so because he is on much better form than Cotto, your only as good as your last fight in this game but everybody`s luck has to change sometime, thats why Im not committing myself to any prediction just yet.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    DLH always had a great chin, the man took punches from guys all the way to middleweight and handled it well. Manny did stun him numerous times in that fight and nearly put him on the canvas when he cornered him in the 8th or 7th. It's Pac's power that got DLH thinking twice before charging in, as soon as he lands the first straight left in the first you can see DLH became more cautious and the more Pac landed the more he backed him off.

    I believe his power will be good enough for Cotto, if Corley was able to rock him and many others then Pac sure as hell will. It all comes down to speed and Cotto won't see half of the power punches Pac will throw.

    About Cotto's timing, still I don't think that will be good enough to seal the deal. Cotto needs to stand still to throw power punches and we all know Pac has great movements and will constantly move/turn Cotto while jumping in with extremely fast punches in combinations.
     
  3. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

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    :yep:yep
     
  4. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DLH has been knocked down several times, and was KO'd against Hopkins.
     
  5. Dynasty091

    Dynasty091 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was by body shot.
     
  6. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DLH did have a great chin. I just think that if smaller guys like Marquez lasted 12, Cotto will too (his chin is not too bad). If Cotto can land a few hard shots, that may get Pac thinking twice about being so aggressive.
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    KO was a body shot and knocked down several times means nothing, the man's chin is still proven iron. Ali was knocked down several times too, doesn't mean his chin isn't good enough as proven in many fights.

    Getting knocked down is normal in the sport and DLH was never KO'd down and out from a punch to the chin.
     
  8. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    The Marquez fight was at 130, what has been proven lately is that Pacquiao carried serious power with him in the higher ranks. That's why the interest in Marquez/Pac III is higher than ever with the serious power Pacquiao is proving.

    I'm not saying Cotto's chin is bad, it's just not great nor good enough for Pacquiao's power and speed. Cotto has been rocked many times by many different fighters, when you catch him with a good punch he doesn't expect he's usually hurt. Hell, sometimes he's caught with a punch he expects and is still dazed/stunned from it. One advantage is that Cotto knows how to survive when hit and remains dangerous/throws big punches.

    Cotto will be wide open for straight lefts looking at his guard.
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    If anything the DLH fight proved serious power. DLH was stunned and looked shocked after the first Cotto straight left in the first round. He was looking to go in aggressive and bully Pac then got hit with a straight left and you can tell from then he had second thoughts about how he charges in.
     
  10. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    I picked PAC over DLH and even thinking of a TKO win due to cuts eventhough DLH not known to suffer cuts easily... Well it's still a TKO win since DLH quit...

    I picked PAC over Hatton via TKO win due to cuts... I thought PAC will slice and dice Hatton's face which is known to cut easily... The brutal KO in the 2nd round surprised me...

    Now, I pick PAC over Cotto probably via TKO win due to cuts...;)
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  11. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I mostly agree, but want to point out that Pac has also been rocked by small guys who do not hit nearly as hard as Cotto. That's why this fight is so great. There are a lot of unknowns, like how will Cotto handle Pac's speed & Power, and how will Pac handle Cotto's WW size & power. I truly think either fighter can take this one.
     
  12. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    It's the general consensus not only in this board . . . because there are so many who believe that Pac's speed and power against Cotto's defense will result to a stoppage.

    I haven't made my pick betwen the two yet and I'm not making one until after the weigh in. :D

    Rightnow I can see it as Cotto by stoppage or Pacquiao via decission. While Cotto's defense is sloppy . . . don't fail to consider that Cotto has received a lot of solid punches from legitimate 140 pounders and 147 pounders before and only Margarito succeded in stopping Cotto. And that happened only after Margarito himself absorb so much punishment from Cotto.

    Can Pac absorb what Margarito absorbed? :D
     
  13. money21207

    money21207 knockout artist Full Member

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    good point people fail to mention how great cotto looked against marg in the beginning he was amazing and look to me at his best with head movement and jaw breaking combos against margs iron face personally that was the best I've seen him in a big time fight anyway those first few rounds can pac handle that if he does get hit
     
  14. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    And going deeper into that . . . I don't see Pac being stupid, fighting Margarito style (tit for tat) . . . therefore there's more chance that Pac is going down than Cotto going down. Cotto only needs one solid hit to hurt Pac. Remember JMM wobbled Pac in the second round of their last fight?

    Pac can outpoint Cotto but there's a higher percentage of Pac going down than Cotto going down in this fight. :D
     
  15. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So, are things any clearer now?