Explain why Andre Ward isn't in your top 5 P4P?

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  1. Juiceboxbiotch

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    He has so far been a one weight fighter. He has done very well at 168 but the rest of the top 10 have done well at multiple weights (not counting the Klitschkos of course). He is somewhere near #7 right now.
     
    Juiceboxbiotch, Dec 21, 2011
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  2. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good list..... but I think PAC and Floyd's position needs to be reversed.:lol: Good list other than that.:good
     
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  3. weegriffin

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    I don't think Pre super six talk changes Wards P4P rank because he was a prospect then and hadn't fought at a high enough level to really know how good he is.

    Also Froch and Kessler are very good wins but I don't think Abraham is all that good of a win as he was 1-2 in hes last 3 fights before ward.
     
    weegriffin, Dec 21, 2011
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    this...^

    Froch is a good but limited fighter, now all the sudden Ward is God, oh i mean the sun of God...
     
    antonio8904, Dec 21, 2011
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  5. Uncle Oden

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    i think it'd be a hard argument to make to have anyone but these 6 as the top 6. The order is more debatable, but there's a drop off when you get to 7.
     
    Uncle Oden, Dec 21, 2011
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  6. motorcity

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    Abraham or Kessler were most favored to win the tornament. Ward is the only one who beat them both. That says it all. People clown on Abraham now but I bet I can pull up posts before the tournament stating that no one except Kessler had a chance of beating him.
     
    motorcity, Dec 21, 2011
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  7. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was a middleweight before the super 6 and sense moving up he he has one win over top level opposition, I am not saying he isn't a good win just not as good as wins over Kessler and Froch.

    Abrahams diffently a very good fighter but seems to be more a Middle weight than a super middle weight.
     
    weegriffin, Dec 21, 2011
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  8. richard mossley

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    To be P4P you have to have some power, he has none. He is not capable of knocking out anyone in the top 20 of his own division.
    P4P is not just skill, otherwise Maglianni would be in top 10.
     
    richard mossley, Dec 21, 2011
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    I have him at #1, he's the best fighter out there today, no question.
     
    Goro, Dec 21, 2011
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    :huh Is this really how you see it? Attempting to base it on ONE fight while ignoring the other work Ward has done?
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Dec 21, 2011
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  11. FilipMNE

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    I dont remember Ward losing, and comparing Maglianni to ward is shamefull, i guess you are Ward hater.
     
    FilipMNE, Dec 21, 2011
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  12. ChrisPontius

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    He has a good argument for the top5. The fact that he's not the undisputed #1 in his own weight class prevents him from ranking higher, in my opinion. To be fair though, the 168 division is pretty talented and deep.
     
    ChrisPontius, Dec 21, 2011
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  13. motorcity

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    So by your analogy, Pernell Whitaker was never P4P?

    Sad
     
    motorcity, Dec 21, 2011
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