Explain why Ruben Olivares is greater than living legend Marquez

Marquez in his prime (check out the Norwood fight) wasn't the slow poke he appears to be today. Even when he fought Pacquiao JMM was already diminishing in speed. Little Red wasn't the most defensively sound fighter either and he had most success with fighters that stood right in front of him, like Puas for example. Lopez I think had the same pop in his punches as Wilfredo Gomez had, but Lopez wasn't a double fisted assassin Gomez was.

JMM is an intelligent fighter and even tho he wasn't as slick, defensively sound, or fast as Salvador Sanchez, if JMM avoided the right hand like Sanchez did, he might have success over Lopez. But if Barrera, who was past it and not a natural right hander was able to drop Marquez, I would hate to see what a great puncher like Little Red, who had one of the most devastating right hands in history, would do to JMM if he connected. Honestly, I think if he got up from Pacquiao's best shots, there might be a chance JMM would have the whiskers to get up from Lopez's powershots and perhaps win a decison over Little Red. Both Puas and Little Red were bangers, but they didn't have the skills JMM had.

JMM IS a living legend. His supposed losses to Norwood, John, and Pacquiao should all be overturned. The only credible loss he has IMO is to Mayweather.

 

Puas was the golden boy of Mexico, was a blood and guts warrior, and appeared in movies and novelas. I think he still does today! He was the prototype of Mexican boxing and was the best until Sanchez came along. Sanchez never became as popular as Puas or Chavez because he wasn't around as long, but I think he has the most significant wins than both of them put together. Olivares was one of the greatest bangers and ko artist ever, but he lived by the sword and died by it too and he was prone to getting ko'd himself. I don't go by popularity and I'd put Olivarez in the top 5 or even top 10. Marquez got robbed too many times, but in my eyes he's just as good or better than Olivarez. JMM was a skillful counterpuncher who was the protege of Finito Lopez and he could punch also.

 

Living legend.

 

Nice break down. We know how Olivares did against Lopez, but it's hard to say how Marquez would have done circa 1975-1979. I could easily imagine Marquez winning a decision. He is in fact a better boxer, but Danny's right hand was one hell of an equalizer.

 

you must've drank urine before to know this

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Awesome,awesome avatar:good:good:good:happy.Chava was simply great!By the way,Olivares is the best bantam I've seen in my lifetime.