explosive strength advice

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  1. norfolkinchance

    norfolkinchance Active Member Full Member

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    Hi guys,

    just looking for some advice and help. I have a white collar boxing match in about 9 weeks time. I used to box amateur in my youth so I'm an ok boxer. my fitness is average.

    im planning from now until the fight on training twice a day mon - fri.

    the morning sessions are going to be conditioning focused and the evenings technical work and sparring.

    My plan in the morning is to do 10-20 mins on the treadmill and mix up with sprints, intervals with slow one paced running on different days. what incline should i have the treadmill at?

    I then want to do 15-20 minutes of exercise designed to increase my explosive strength. so what would be a good routine for this? i have weights, kettle bells and medicine balls at my disposal. nothing would be to failure.

    then i will finish the session off with some more conditioning work. so a mixture of punch out drills, burpees, skipping etc etc.

    any thoughts on the set up of this? should i swap things around at all?

    i was thinking clean and press, a few different medicine ball throws and some explosive jumping of some sort would be good.

    thanks guys.....
     
  2. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All of those things will help. Try and do strength and explosive work when you're fresh if possible and don't do it everyday. The thing I'd be looking out for is overtraining, it looks like you're looking at high volume and high intensity from the word go... You need rest to repair and to increase power and explosiveness especially. Listen to your body. I'd leave more of the explosive stuff for closer to the fight when you decrease the volume of your training.
     
  3. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Id leave the Treadmill out as regards explosive work, and skip. A ordinary treadmill doest work the explosive muscles for Boxing in the leg Hamstrings calfs achillies. It creates an imbalance in the mechanics. Skip :good.
     
  4. TVLPC

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    I'd say do explosive training no more than twice per week. Me personally, I would not finish off your explosive training with more conditioning work nor would I do sprints of any sort(either on treadmill, ground, etc) before doing explosive work. Explosive training is taxing in nature, and you should be fresh when doing it.

    I agree with Lefty to watch your volume, because it would be very easy to burn out training like this. If you are training boxing five times per week, I think you would need no more than three addtl workouts per week. Train cardio for 4 weeks, doing intervals, LSD running on days you feel tired, sluggish, moody, and all other symptoms of overtraining. Then I would do Explosive training for 3-4 weeks, two workouts per week, and last week no addtl conditioning or strength work.

    The mistake people make doing explosive work is they rest 30 sec to 1 minute then do another set. You should have full recovery, between 2-5 minutes or RHR is around 120 or under.

    "I then want to do 15-20 minutes of exercise designed to increase my explosive strength. so what would be a good routine for this?"
    i was thinking clean and press, a few different medicine ball throws and some explosive jumping of some sort would be good." This would be fine. Pick 3-5 exercises. Although, I think you will need longer than 15-20 minutes. Again, think full recovery when working on explosive speed, power, and or strength. In between exercises, I use 8-10 minutes active rest before moving on to the next exercise. That's my $.02.
     
  5. kenpachi

    kenpachi Member Full Member

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    With explosive movements can you mix it up between upper and lower to save time? For example, can you do a set of plyometric push ups and then rather than wait 3 minutes to recover and do the next set, could you do a lower body movement instead such as explosive jump squats? Or do you have to complete the sets for one exercise consecutively to get max results?
     
  6. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    I see what you are saying. In training for explosiveness, you want to train it 100% effort regardless of weight load. Therefore, you want to be as recovered as possible for each set. That is why I stated the 120ish and under bpm heart rate. If one is training the "outer walls" of this energy system(12 or so seconds) heart rate is a good indicator of recovery. However, it is far from the only indicator, therefore 2-5 minutes rest is a good rule of thumb to stick with.

    Although one is upper, one lower, if you are truly training for explosiveness, do full recovery and stick with the exercise before transitioning to another exercise. If you begin doing jump squats right after push ups, you begin to train completely different, won't be fully recovered and will get different adaptations. Hope that makes sense.
     
  7. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know what youre saying von, as regards adaptions. Im still an open book as regards what I call time and motion, Ill put something up as regards constant, then the adaptions. A few techniques on firing all nuerons at the same time. I understand, but its the time and habits :D
     
  8. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2j0As1L7QM[/ame]
     
  9. norfolkinchance

    norfolkinchance Active Member Full Member

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    some good points and thanks to all those who took the time to post. Im starting to think that maybe I don't need to worry too much about the explosive side of things and concentrate more on conditioning and technique over the next two months. I can maybe improve my power by 5 or 10% over 2 months but can probably make considerable improvements to technique and fitness with two dedicated months of hard work....


    Another question.....I hit fairly hard with both hands and have dropped plenty of people with a left hand to the body. however I hardly ever thro a right hand after my jabs. on the pads it seems a sharp good punch but in sparring it never comes out. when it does it seems to reaching and weak and very rarely lands. i also seem off balance when i throw it. why is this? all thoughts gratefully accepted....
     
  10. norfolkinchance

    norfolkinchance Active Member Full Member

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    also meant to say that is a very interesting video scrap. should you ever pen a book i would definitely be buying it.....
     
  11. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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  12. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No mate they are woodybands, but the belt was homemade. There are 2 together looped, at the end He has about 90lb of pull on Him. The other stuff after is the secret, they are ways of firing all the nuerons in the legs at the same time. suple plyos that give great results.
     
  13. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Do you know what the belt is made of? I looks easy, but intense.
     
  14. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2" band velcro either side with a rind. Idea was with velcro you can put 4 rings on and connect to 4 corners of the ring, for other things we do.
     
  15. ShamrockNapalm

    ShamrockNapalm Rhythm Amongst The Chaos Full Member

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    Clap-up pushups are great for increasing explosive strength.