Exposed.

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  1. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    This point is utterly irrelevant to the thread-subject.
     
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  2. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    :lol::good
     
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  3. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Sadly, you appear to be right. People cannot separate the issue from their fanboy attachments.
     
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  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    exposed in BOXING terms means a guy that fights sub par competition is whole career and when he takes a step up gets mashed. or in fact if the fighter never takes a step up and is beaten by a guy who was supposed to beat. anyone see mark gastinea vs tim doc anderson? thats the defintiation of exposed.
    cotto has had 10 or more world title fights, and has been in wars. he lost one ****ing fight in the 11th round. thats hardly "exposed".
     
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  5. Medicine

    Medicine Boxing Addict banned

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    This is seriously the most annoying term.

    People are so quick to use this word, I remember in the Williams-Phillips fight, people where claiming Williams had been Exposed, because he was being counterd a bit in the early part of the fight.

    According to some people, if a fighter ever has any trouble, or does not figure their opponet out right away....then they have been Exposed. Every time a fight is happening their are over 20 threads being posted about how so and so is being Exposed.
     
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  6. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    yeah, i know. i just wanted to say that it doesn't necessarily mean cotto is an inferior fighter to margo having lost to him. it could have been the size difference. ergo, cotto was definitely not "exposed".
     
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  7. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    so thats whos fault? if thats the case...maybe cotto shouldnt be fighting at 147.......maybe 140..... they all weigh in the same day before the fight....i dont buy that reasoning....but i understand why you say it....
     
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  8. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    This is correct.

    That's why I just stick with "styles make fights".

    There is a style that can beat any fighter and as far as Mayweather goes, it might be either someone that has his speed and technical ability like a 2000 Shane Mosley or a brawler like 2001 Castillo or 2009 Margarito/Pac.
     
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  9. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    exactly people just need to stop using the word all together except for very extreme cases
     
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  10. DINAMITA

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    See, I disagree with this. My point is that a well-rounded skilful fighter at the top of his game physically would not be exposed. He may be beaten, but he would not be found deficient in any particular aspect of his game.

    Example: I think Cotto was exposed vs Margarito because he had a poorer grasp on defence and stamina than anyone thought beforehand - but he can address these two specific problems and then become the type of fighter who couldn't be "exposed". For instance, well-rounded fighters like Sugar Ray Leonard or Floyd Mayweather or Pernell Whitaker or even Juan Manuel Marquez are above being exposed. They may lose while facing excellent opponents, but the root cause of the loss would not be an inherent facet of their game, like a lack of defensive nous or of stamina.

    ie: Prime Leonard lost to Duran simply because he fought someone who was better at the type of fight that transpired than he was. He wasn't exposed, he merely failed to handle the fight as well as Duran - no single aspect of his game was found wanting, he was superb on the night and could've beaten any other fighter in the world that night in his class. His brawling ability was excellent that night, but he lost to the better man.
     
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  11. DINAMITA

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    Again - have you actually read my thread-starter? It appears as if you keep jumping in with some pre-prepared issue with the word "exposed" without knowing what is being discussed.
     
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  12. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think pavlik can be said to have been exposed in the hopkins fight
     
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  13. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Aint no different ways of slicing it....

    if someone beats you they were better that night and did something correctly and the person who lost did something incorrectly

    there for the winner exposed the opponents mistakes

    there for the winner exposed the loser

    whether it was a mistake that the loser makes always or only on that given night

    the winner still exposed someone...

    the word just needs to stop
     
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  14. DINAMITA

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    This is exactly the wrong usage of the term that I am referring to!! :good
     
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  15. DINAMITA

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    Cotto is a superior fighter, but that doesn't change the fact that his defence and stamina were exposed in the fight. Read my thread-starter.
     
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