Exposing the HW lies: Part3..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bubby, Apr 1, 2012.


  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Why should endorsements not count? If a star gets loads of endorsements from a sport, that exemplifies that sports popularity. You're clutching at straws. Any source on Vitali making 30 million on boxing alone? Keep up with the emotions, it truly shows who's losing the argument.
     
  2. Nosbor

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    George Zimmerman just killed the next great American heavyweight.
     
  3. Uncle Roger

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    why are you such a racist ****?

    I'd just like to know. Are you angry? Is your life shitty?:think
     
  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Vitali's network is apparently 60-65 million so if he made 30 million in one year from two fights that's rather impressive (And highly unlikely).
     
  5. Nosbor

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    It seems that most of you would be much happier spending your time on NFL and NBA message boards. Those sports do generate the most income flow but are not necessarily more popular with the average person.

    If a basketball game breaks out and a fight breaks out, which one is going to attract more attention? The U.S. has simply lost it's stranglehold on boxing's flagship divison and their media is steering away potential support through a smear campaign.

    Young athletes do have more opportunities in persueing footballl or basketball but that is because those sport's have far more way's for a player to succeed/contribute. Different position's offer far more diversity than a one on one combat sport that has far higher attrition rates due to it's intrinsic makeup.

    Gained quote summed this up best.

    "fighters are born not financed"

    So your fantasies about Lebron James, Dwight Howard and Ray Lewis being America's real heavyweight talents are just that, FANTASY.

    The bizarre fascintation with prison inmates is even more perplexing. If they lack the descipline to conduct themselves as human beings, why would they ever keep their vices at bay to undertake the rigors of boxing training at the elite level?
     
  6. devon

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    Net worth is not accurate because floyd mayweather makes 40 mil a fight yet only has a net worth of 90 mil
     
  7. superman1692

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    Just when I thought you couldn't post something more vile than all the other crap you've posted, you manage to exceed my expectations. You really are a grade A piece of ****.
     
  8. PetethePrince

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    Sounds like you're making an argument for MMA, not boxing. Unless the fight automatically gets boring once it hits the ground, or perhaps you're assuming that most fight more like "men" and don't go to the ground... or perhaps you're not assuming they don't go to the ground, just that once they do they get broken up?

    At the same token, young athletes have less opportunity to participate in boxing, or at least participate under the best conditions (Gym, equipment, knowledgeable trainers, etc) than they had in the past in America. Yes, or no? Wouldn't admitting this as being true force you to acknowledge that there is at least a recognition to the decline of HW boxing in America. Hell, forget HW boxing... how about all of boxing in America? It's pretty damning evidence to me, particularly those that see the talent pool and depth of past eras. It's striking how much lesser in skill and technique many fighters are today. Forget about just toughness of yesteryear guys. That's not just nostalgia, either.


    While I don't outright disagree with the spirit, there's something historically inaccurate about this quote.

    That's a damning conclusion (A false one). Unless your quote about fighters is meant to be literal, which would be silly. You can be born a fighter and turn the route toward in other sport because of the social fabric and structures in society. Yes, support toward boxing financially matters, not that financially backing a fighter is a necessary condition. After all, you do need a gym, good trainers, and of course some equipment. The attraction and rise in popularity of other sports is surely a factor to blame in the decline in American HW boxing. That's not say Ray Lewis or Dwight Howard would be HW champion if they weren't in the NFL or NBA. But what about the tons of athletes that tried their whole life and failed at playing in the NBA or NFL. Maybe one of those could've made it... and if they don't and decide not to play in the CFL or European or D league, where will they go today to try being a fighter? MMA... it's the sport for the failed athlete after all.

    If this is not the case and I'm clearly way off-base, then do you think Seth Mitchell, Eddie Chambers, and Chris Arreola are as good as Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, etc? What do you say about the current state of HW boxing. The talent is there and they are just lazy. The K brothers are just that much superior that it's making American HWs look bad? Surely, an outrageous position; I wouldn't be surprised if it was your opinion though.

    This reaction seems to come from the xenophobic K brother supporters, sarcastically. Not the perspective of those that disagree with the OP.

    Either way... Sonny Liston, Mike Tyson. That's two ATG HW champs already. What about those that were troubled and committed crimes but were never convicted? Again, it's a good point, but that's not to say a Leopard can't change its spots... or at least be properly taught by a role model or mentor.
     
  9. devon

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    :****offShut the **** up
     
  10. Urone2

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  11. Nosbor

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    Way too much to address. Honestly: I was hoping you would just call me a "racist" so I could laugh and move on...
     
  12. Nosbor

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    <<< Relax and have a termite!
     
  13. Urone2

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    This seems to be just a lie nothing to back the 30 million Vitali made. 6 to 8 Million per fight.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I was almost going to go that route but you went past your schtick and actually made a post for once so I felt compelled to do the same.

    Honestly, that post I just made I think puts me in the General Forum HOF. Damn I'm good.
     
  15. DrMo

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    Throwing pearls at swine there Pete.

    EVT winning post :deal