Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott vs Sonny Liston-

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  1. Ezzard can beat Sonny

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  2. Jersey Joe whips Sonny

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  3. They both lick him

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  4. Sonny licks them both

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  5. Sonny beats Ezzard but losses to Joe

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  6. Sonny beats the Jersey one but losses to Charles

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  1. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    Now obviously it is not a 2v1 @Thatoneguywhoalwaysmakesthatjoke.
    This is the best of all the fighters at HW. 12 rounds not 15 the ruleset and equipment of Listons era.
     
  2. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Liston beats both
    I see Charles being able to weather an assault from sonny with slipping and ducking to avoid the worst.
    But as the rounds went by, Liston turns into a boxer and try to box with Charles. But since Ezzard was a master pugilist, i think Sonny would obviously realize he should get Charles out there early, and i think he would.
    But if he doesn't make it happen, i think it becomes a boring chess match, and in this case i cannot predict who would win this.

    As for walcott, if anything is right, he lose an incredibly close decision, since he was a bit better than Machens.
    I can also imagine him getting knocked out late, if screw up and goes inside to exchange with the big bear.
     
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  3. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Liston beats both.
     
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  5. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Liston was Charles sparring partner and Charles didn’t think much of him...although that certainly wasn’t a prime Liston. I’d give Charles the better chance of the two because of that. Think both trouble Liston a lot actually but I’d favor Sonny to catch up to them eventually.
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wouldn’t pick either guy to beat Liston, but I think they both stand a chance.
     
  7. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    Sonny could not chase Machen down for a stoppage he isn't catching Ezzard or Jersey Joe for a stoppage if they are playing matador.
     
  8. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    I read that but I believe Sonny was really green at that point. I don't think he is catching them for a stoppage epically if they decide to fight really negative much as Machen lost nearly every round he still wasn't stopped and I reckon two defensive cute fighters like Walcott and Ezzard are making it to the final bell whatever the outcome.
     
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  9. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ezzard has a better chance than Joe imo
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I respectfully have to favor Liston to beat both of those men. As much as I love Ezzard Charles and rank him higher than sonny p4p, I just don’t think he’d have an answer to that piston-like jab and monstrous power.
     
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  11. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I rank Liston higher on my All Time Heavyweight list, but, head to head, I think both of them manage to decision Sonny in 12 (most times). If they fight multiple times, Sonny catches them occasionally.
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I favor Liston, but i don't agree with this idea that Liston just bombs them out easily. Walcott did arguably beat a good version of Joe Louis. They both could last the distance, but if Liston does pull off a stoppage, it's mid to late rounds.
     
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