Ezzard Charles or Muhammad Ali, who had the faster hands prime for prime?

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Who had the faster hands?

  1. Charles

    6.7%
  2. Ali

    93.3%
  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who had the faster hands?
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Not sure as most of Charles' actual prime isn't filmed. From what is on film however, it's clearly Ali imo; and I've seen comparisons between Ali and Robinson's jab where Ali's was quicker. That's crazy hand speed for any weight, let alone a proper heavyweight.

    P4P its 100% Ali and in actual terms it's probably Ali as well.
     
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  3. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At heavyweight it would be Ali. Charles was still pretty damn quick.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I really couldn’t say for sure. Both had extremely fast hands.
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Hmmm....not sure, but Charles speed is underrated.
     
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  6. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    I think it's evident that Ali is clearly faster than Charles on tape.

    Charles is a much more technically correct puncher but speed, I don't think it's close enough to be genuinely debatable. As @George Crowcroft said earlier, Ali's jab is measured as faster than SRR's and then when you factor moving around and a longer reach/distance to target, the speed is speeding expeditiously.
     
  7. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Relative to peak Ali:

    1. On a P4P basis vs any version of Charles = Ali is my guess

    2. In absolute terms vs the Charles most have seen clear footage of from his HW contests = Ali

    3. In absolute terms vs a peak LHW Charles = uncertain because of the lack of quality footage, but my guess is Charles. Here he is vs Lloyd Marshall, the quality isn't great, but you get a feel his hands were faster than when he was up at HW -
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  8. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shiiiit

    Somehow I misread the title as Chambers vs Ali and snickered, voted, then realized my mistake.
     
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  9. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles seemed to be ahead of his time.
     
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