Ezzard Charles...top ten wins...name em'!

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    This is going to be difficult. As always, the criterion are your own. I am going to go for variety here, because he beat multiple great fighters multiple times. Please don't forget to name the specific fight if he fought a fighter multiple times.

    Joe Louis
    Walcott 1
    Walcott II
    Moore III
    Marshall II (first win)
    Burley 1
    Maxim 1
    Bivins II
    Ray II
    Lesnevich

    Again, I could see this many ways. To put it into perspective, this man has a lot to choose from...

    CHAMPIONS
    Joe Louis
    Joe WalcottX2
    Archie MooreX3
    Joey MaximX5
    Gus Lesnevich
    Teddy Yarosz
    Anton Christoforidis

    MURDERER'S ROW GREATS
    Lloyd MarshallX2
    Charley BurleyX2
    Jim BivinsX3

    HEAVYWEIGHT CONTENDERS
    Elmer Ray
    Rex LayneX2
    Bob Satterfield
    Joe Baksi
    Nick Barone
    Lee Oma
    Cesar Brion
    Coley Wallace
    Charley Norkus
    Pat Valentino
    Freddie Beshore
    Bernie Reynolds
     
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  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    1. Moore 3
    2. Walcott 1
    3. Walcott 2
    4. Burley 1
    5. Marshall 2
    6. Bivins 1
    7. Ray 2
    8. Maxim
    9. Louis
    10. Lesnevich
     
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  3. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 OFFICIAL THREAD DIDDLER banned Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles list of wins make me question my rating of Sugar Ray Robinson at #1.
     
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  4. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In chrono order

    Archie Moore I
    Bivins III
    Lloyd Marshall III
    Elmer Ray II
    Baksi
    Lesnevich
    Louis
    Maxim IV
    Rex Layne III
    Holman II(he beat an elite 6'3 HW in his prime while being nearly washed)

    Walcott II would be 11th.
     
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  5. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    too me it also shows the analysis & sentiments that Boxing Media & powerbrokers weilded, Charles, like Marshall, Walcott and obviously many many others too, but do you know how many times these men were described as 'washed' up and/or written off by Boxing Voices, who had the power of influence, which quite literally assisted or desisted some & certain fighters.

    I have really been disillusioned by Boxing, not the Fighters nor the 'cough cough' sport, but the whole lying Business Managed Outcome.

    Charles was some fighter, for one so washed up and often written off - was indeed a shame, GOD Bless them all.
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Joe Louis 3 votes
    Lesnevich 3 votes
    Ray II 3 votes
    Walcott 1 2 votes
    Walcott II 2 votes
    Moore III 2 votes
    Marshall II (first win) 2 votes
    Burley 1 2 votes
    Maxim 1 2 votes
    Bivins I 2 votes
    Archie Moore 1 vote
    Bivins III 1vote
    Lloyd Marshall III 1 vote
    Baksi 1 vote
    Maxim IV 1 vote
    Rex Layne III 1vote
    Holman II 1 vote
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    We had the same thoughts, although in different order!
     
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  8. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Archie Moore x 3
    Jimmy Bivins 2
    Jimmy Bivins 3
    Charley Burley 1
    Charley Burley 2
    Lloyd Marshall 2
    Lloyd Marshall 3
    JJW 2

    HMs - JJW 1, Joe Louis, Elmer Ray, Gus Lesnevich, Jimmy Bivins 3, Joey Maxim x 5, Teddy Yarosz, Antonio Christorforidis, Jose Basora and Oakland Billy Smith 2.

    Insane, absurdly brilliant win resume.
     
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  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One of the Moore fights have to be the best wins, probably the third. Beating a consensus top 5 ATG for the weight class in his prime is truly rare, might not hava happened before or since. Certainly not 3 out of 3.
     
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  10. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whilst I'm the only one to have voted all 3 Moore wins, I'd go far as to say all 3 should be locks in Ezzard's top 10 wins. Moore is generally ranked either #1 or #2 all time at LHW and was prime for all 3 of Charles's wins.

    Not only are all 3 of Moore's wins amongst Charles best 10, they're probably the best 3 wins he has. Wins don't get much better than beating the greatest of all time, aside from yourself, in the weight divison, during your opponents prime.
     
  11. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Depends on how you view SRR Vs Gavilan, but yeah, the Moore wins are decisive credentials.

    Ezz is exactly what modernists make out Evan and Usyk to be and then some - by miles actually.
     
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  12. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My reasoning for leaving them out was I was going with the 10 most dominant wins. 2 of the Moore wins were close fights. Anything where Charles got knocked down or could have lost doesn't make it.

    Also Moore was still recovering from his surgery. Agewise he was in his prime but physically he wasn't there. Or at least wasn't as good as he'd be later. When comparing these two fighters while Charles was nearly a decade younger time was pretty cleanly on Moores side here. If this trilogy happens a few years later the beneficiary would be Moore.
     
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  13. Greg Price99

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    Charles beat Moore by 10-0 shut out in one fight and stoppage in another fight.
     
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  14. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes that was the one closest to his surgery. I still put it in my top 10.

    The stoppage was still a close fight Moore could have won.
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

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    Joe Louis 3 Votes
    Lesnevich 3 votes
    Ray II 3 votes
    Walcott II 3 votes
    Moore III 3 votes
    Marshall II (first win) 3 votes
    Burley 1 3 votes
    Walcott 1 2 votes
    Maxim 1 2 votes
    Bivins I 2 votes
    Archie Moore 1 2vote
    Lloyd Marshall III 2 vote
    Bivins III 1vote
    Baksi 1 vote
    Maxim IV 1 vote
    Rex Layne III 1vote
    Holman II 1 vote
    Moore 2 1 vote
    Bivins II 1 vote
    Burley II 1 vote
     
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