Ezzard Charles vs Bernard Hopkins and James Toney

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Ezzard would beat both their overrated asses. Not in the same class.
     
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  2. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Serious beating over both. Maybe a hopkins stoppage.
     
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  3. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he beats both whatever weight ya want.
     
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  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    At lightheavy Ezzard Charles was head and shoulders above either man...he would have stopped them both...yes cleanly STOPPED either one.
     
    red cobra, Jun 14, 2011
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  5. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    We have a tendency to over value the abilities of the boxers we see and love, but comparing these two to Ezzard Charles is a little too much. Of course some extrapolation to lhw should be done, but he beats them both at any weight.
     
    Grinder, Jun 14, 2011
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  6. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    S, you took the words out of my mouth. Ezzard fought and beat many superior fighters than they !
    Would 46 year old Hopkins be champion today, with the likes of Archie Moore, Jimmy Bivins, lloyd marshall, joey maxim,all in their primes fighting today ? Case closed...:good
     
    burt bienstock, Jun 14, 2011
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  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No MW/LHW could ever seriously beat James Toney.
    Maybe except of Marciano .
     
    frankenfrank, Jun 14, 2011
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  10. frankenfrank

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  11. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Marciano never weighed in under the LHW limit.

    Charles still whips the **** out of Toney, on a good or bad day.
     
    Swarmer, Jun 14, 2011
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  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you 14 yrs old or something? For you history began in 1990.
     
    red cobra, Jun 14, 2011
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Toney and Hopkins are not in the same class as Charles. That is not a bold statement nor one any serious student of the game would disagree with. Nor is it really an aspersion upon their abilities. 99.99% of the boxers who ever graced those divisions are not as good as Charles.
     
    Seamus, Jun 14, 2011
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  14. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles vs Bernard Hopkins and James Toney

    Dear Jesus forgive us our sins!
     
    thistle1, Jun 14, 2011
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It's completely correct to say charles is in a different class because he was. Neither of them can top his best victories in either weight.

    The only way you'd ever think otherwise is if you were to judge him on his last ten fights or so
     
    lufcrazy, Jun 14, 2011
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