Ezzard Charles vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Lets say at cruiserweight.

    I am convinced that this could be one of the greatest sizzlers of all time.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Charles would win a close decision.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Be a great fight. I think these two are quite similair.

    I take Charles. I think he'd be better at imposing his more cautious gameplan and he is the better combination puncher IMO.
     
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  4. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Charles wins in a war
     
  5. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    Would definitely be a good fight, very evenly matched but I'd have to pick Charles to win by decision.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    I don't think it would be a war. I think Charles would keep it from craziness. It would have its moments though.
     
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    My take as well. Charles at 189-195 Lbs, had far more experience than Holyfield did at that weight. Holyfield wouldn't likely score a knockout either.
     
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  8. Joe E

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    Charles was a natural cruiser at anyrate. Holyfield hadn't matured yet at cruiser. I think Charles schools him, although Holyfield the warrior would get his licks in. Charles UD.
     
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  9. WhataRock

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    You reckon Charles was a natural cruiser?

    He seemed to be pretty consistently making the light heavy limit well into his late 20's..after starting out at middleweight.

    He only was coming in over 190 on a regular basis until the last few years of his career, by that time he was losing quite a few more then he was winning...A lot of people also argue during his whole stay at heavyweight he was past his prime.

    I think Ezz is just an all round better fighter than Holy but the 6'2 1/2-6'3, Evander with a body cut like Ice T was the naturally (or unnaturally) bigger man.
     
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  10. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Charles weighed 196 officialy when he fought Walcott the 4th time and could have made 200 without suffering. He usually weighed 185 during his Heavyweight carrer so yes, he made cruiser easy.

    Yes.
    Charles weighed 180 or there abouts when he fought Walcott the first time for the NBA Title in 1949. Charles didn't start his slide at Heavy until his first loss to Walcott in 51.
    There build pre steroids was about the same. Holyfield with a slight height advantage.
     
  11. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im not argueing that he could fill out to cruiser size and be very capable there..but I was questioning your statement about Ezzy being a natural cruiser. I felt you were implying that that was his natural weight and his whole 6 or 7 year career at light heavy he was having to cut a lot of weight to stay there, in the vein of someone like Lamotta.

    I tend to feel his was good sized lightheavy in his prime. Not a man who naturally was a cruiser (or in that day a small heavyweight).
     
  12. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats my point. He was a natural Lt. Heavy but he could make cruiser easy.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Charles could stop Evander but I think he wins a UD....Charles a more natural fighter without the weights Evander was more muscular and tight
     
  14. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    But you did say.


    And there is a difference between a lt heavyweight and the modern term of cruiserweight. Thats why I took the way I did.
     
  15. kenny weldon

    kenny weldon New Member Full Member

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    There is no doubt in my mind,Holy was much too strong for Charles,who looks just like him .Holy would have beaten him by decision ,though they both had alot of the same natural assets.....God bless....kenny weldon