Ezzard Charles vs Floyd Patterson at HW

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    If Charles weighing 182-185 lbs fought a 188-190 pound Patterson, who's the "naturally" bigger man will be irrelevant. Walcott was even more "naturally" bigger than Patterson while being an approximately equal fighter to Patterson in terms of skill. Walcott was 180 pounds in his first fight at 16 years old while Patterson was an equivalent of a modern day super middle at 17-19 years old. Would Walcott be "too big" for Patterson?

    So Patterson may win, but not because he is the "bigger man"
     
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  2. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And when the hell did i say that he would win cause his size?
     
  3. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And yes. Walcott was bigger than Charles NATURALLY
     
  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You've basically said it would be a major factor when bringing up the fact that Patterson would be "too big and too strong" for Charles either in this thread or another running thread. I know because I read it.
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Exactly my point. So whatever size advantage anyone may site that Patterson has over Charles as a reason for Patterson beating Charles is null and void as far as determining the outcome of a hypothetical bout.
     
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  6. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I never ever said it
    I listed a lot of reasons.
    Styles
    Power+ speed
    And the "size" factor was one more.
    So basically you are inventing
     
  7. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You invented it,i never said that patterson would win cause he was 10 pounds bigger.
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    No I'm not....the whole argument which has spanned for 4 pages is about the factor that Patterson's size advantage, if any, would play into a hypothetical win over Charles. You seem to think it would be a significant factor. If not, then what has the whole discussion been about and why was it even brought up in the first place?
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You've directly stated that he's "bigger and stronger" in your list of reasons why he would beat Charles. If it's irrelevant, why bring it up?
     
  10. Charlietf

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    It had nothing to do with the fantasy fight,this one was another debate, mcvey understood that i never suggested that patterson would win cause his size.
    It was only a parallel debate.
     
  11. Charlietf

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    Because it was an added factor, not the only reason. Patterson would not be the smaller fragile guy here
     
  12. mattdonnellon

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    be a great fight, Floyd's speed and power for me but not a confident pick by any means.
     
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  13. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Charles decision. I do agree that Charles, though powerful, lacks the power to worry Floyd, I think Charles is too skillful for Floyd, and less predictable. Charles MD.
     
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