Ezzard Charles vs. Jack Johnson. 15 rounds.

Charles by decision. Quicker hands and higher workrate make the difference.

 

Could go either way in my opinion.

But Charles wasn't a physical fighter who would try and clinch/maul you... So how are you going to exert one of your greatest advantages over others in your physical strength if your man is capable of moving for 15?

 

I would pick Johnson to win. Particularly if he is given a chance to adapt to the '40s & '50s style.

 

No he didn't. This is a figment of your imagination. You need to stop spreading this nonsense. No one agrees with your statement. You are the only one who thinks this. Please do us all a favor and stop. Charles was a defensive first fighter. A slick master boxer who loved to Box and use his lightning fast hands to score long left hooks and pinpoint right hands.

 

This fight would be a master class - under fair conditions without the threat of the KKK lynching him afterwards Johnson wins hands down though - both amazing fighters though - two of my very favourite fighters to watch of all time - Johnson was a genius fighter IMO better only by Muhammad Ali as far as the things he could do in there - IMO the only reason Johnson didn't wipe everyone out in like 1 or 2 rounds in his prime is because of the threat of serious KKK action against him or his loved ones/and or serious action by the authorities against him - without the handcuffs he wipes most all fighters out in my book - even Charles - Charles would make a real feisty battle of it though and may rile Johnson by having his own successes at times himself - whether Johnson could pull off a perfection punch like the Walcott hook/uppercut that sparks Snooks or not I don't know but Johnson could be merciless when looking to finish his man

 

They are going by his Marciano fights but simply fail to realize he was semi-shot and lacked the legs to fight his fight against his most dangerous opponent.

 

No. Now your wrong. Charles did not brawl Marciano in the first fight for the first 6 rounds. He boxed him, and boxed him beautifully. Only after Marciano wore him down, did Charles began to brawl late. Charles in June 1954 was not "semi" show either. A gross exaggeration. Many Champions would have had their hands full with a june 1954 Charles, and some would have lost. He did have the legs early on, but when you have a non stop torpedo in your face, you eventually lose your legs.


I do think Charles handspeed, reflexes, fluid movement was at it's best in the 1940s..but I still thought he looked slick, cagey, and had fast hands on film all the way up to june 1954. He was also very determined mentally, perhaps more so than ever in june of 1954.


anyway let's get back to the topic

 

AGREE 100% WITH EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID HERE - all very good points on Charles and very relevant to topic also as its reflective of his ability to perform against the very very best at least :good

 

When Charles fought at heavyweight he became more cautious. When he was at light heavy he liked to mix it up more. A simple glance at the reports of his biggest fights at 175 support this. Definitely more aggressive and more inclined to brawl at LH.

 

Yes, because sustaining the beating and carrying the opponent so they receive far more damage as Johnson did would please them so much more right?