Ezzard Charles vs Muhammad Ali

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  1. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would Charles have a chance or would he be too small to compete? I think Charles would be the best pure boxer Ali faced, but how would their styles mesh? Any thoughts?
     
  2. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont think its a question of size but just the fact that Ali was too much in almost every department. I think hed make Charles look ordinary.
     
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  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Could be like the Doug Jones fight or the Cooper fight without the blood. Zora Foley but with a better chin?

    However, like the very best champs I just don't think Ali could get beat in his prime.
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Charles would give Ali absolute fits.

    Come to think of it, he could have given practically anybody fits!
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At heavyweight Ali had too much of everything and more over Charles. A primer Charles might catch Clay in a Doug Jones kinda way… but as far as a mature Ali, pre-Manilla…. nope.
     
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  6. darling dame

    darling dame Active Member Full Member

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    Underated EZZ BY dec in 15:good
     
  7. Bummy Davis

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    Ezzard Charles is not Doug Jones or Foley or Cooper....tough fight for Ali and close decision win but a battle
     
  8. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    Ali had problems with boxers like Ellis.
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Q. What does Charles do better than Ali?

    A . Nothing.



    This would be Ali v Jimmy Ellis revisited.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No he didn't he did not put his foot on the pedal till the second half of the fight ,in essence he allowed his friend to make a show.


    It was a fairly even fight for the first three rounds, but Ali took control after hurting Ellis with a right hand in the fourth round. Ellis said the right hand "hurt me so bad I couldn't really fight my best after that."
    The referee stopped the fight at 2:10 of the 12th round with Ellis on his feet taking punishment. There were no knockdowns in the fight


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  11. Mega Lamps

    Mega Lamps Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Charles or Walcott would be great to see against Ali.
     
  12. janitor

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    A. Practicaly everything except size and speed.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles is not in anyone's top ten as a heavyweight champion, Ali is routinely described as the best.
    Ali has a better jab, a better hook, and a better right cross he is also significantly faster of both hand and foot, add to that he had a much better chin, three inches in height,25lbs in weight and 5 inches in reach. I don't know what you're drinking?
     
  14. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Charles could be very competitive against Ali. Prime for prime it's a tough matchup. Ali had some issues with smaller men that were close in hand speed. Never mind the pre prime Ali that had tough fights with Jones and Cooper but even at his best against Folley. folley had moments, Especially the openig round and after the first knockdown. Folley was well past it, and "chinny" at this point.

    I see this as a very competitive fight.
     
  15. darling dame

    darling dame Active Member Full Member

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    I THINK its silly to say Ali gave Ellis a break because there BUDDYS.Charles had a better punch. where do you get your smoke?:lol:
     


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