Ezzard Charles vs the Fab Four @ MW

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles was still green and not at his absolute best when he was a MW. But could he have beaten the likes of SRL, Hearns, Hagler, and Duran even at his early stage?
    He was good enough to beat a guy like Charley Burley, so surely he would have at least been able to beat any, if not all of the Fab Four IMO.
     
  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I honestly wouldnt include Duran as a legit MW. I have a hard time including Leonard as one too.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He'd beat all but Hagler

    And that's a 50-50 due to Hagler's ring IQ.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Interesting question. Really not sure how early-career Ezzard Charles matches up against those guys.
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Pretty much my opinion
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Definitely Duran, probably Hearns, maybe Sugar, definitely a close thing with Hagler.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Loses to Hagler. Has trouble with Hearns. but I can definitely see him beating him.

    Leonard and Duran would not be big factors IMO. Too small, and all three are on a similar level of class. Charles decisions both.
     
  9. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duran -no chance. Stopped
    Hearns- no chance. Stopped. Leonard- no chance. Stopped
    Hagler- not against middleweight Charles who btw was great at this weight. Maybe stopped.
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He beats all but Hagler.

    Hearns possesses a lot of tools to trouble Charles, but imo is too fragile at 160 to take Charles's punches. I like Hearns to box well early on but take some body punishment and gas out. Charles stops him late.

    Hagler's jab and movement troubles Charles too much and Charles doesn't have the fire power to trouble Hagler. Hagler jabs and moves his way to a decision.

    Duran & Leonard are too small imo, not quick enough at MW either.
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I agree with these picks.

    But Tyson beats all!!!
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Charles punching power is underrated IMO. He stopped bigger men than Hagler.
     
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  13. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who does have the fire power?Jackson and McClellan but they'd have trouble landing. I think the only way Hagler gets stopped is if he moved to light heavyweight.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    There's nobody I pick to stop Hagler but theres definitely guys I'd pick to keep him honest. If Hearns, Mugabi, Duran and Briscoe can keep him honest/wobble
    him, you best believe Monzon, Jones, Fitzsimmons, Langford, Ketchel, Zale ect ect can do the same. Jackson, McClellan too. Ezzard was a brilliant puncher at 175, not so much at 160.

    I agree that nobody should he favoured to stop Hagler at MW. But guys like Moore, Foster, Spinks ect definitely do at LHW imo.
     
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  15. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bob Foster would knock his head off his shoulders but i always felt he was like a light heavyweight version of Julian Jackson he could give but not take.