F*** Jermain Taylor.

Agree with you totally that Taylor is an over-hyped HBO fraud who has gotten multiple gift decisions in fights he lost. But, ask yourself WHY, ever since Hopkins rocked him, he's been taking on nothing but light-hitters coming up from lower weight divisions??

I smell a high-grade Fraudley here - just WAITING to get KTFO! :nod :yep

 

Here's how I scored Taylor's fights with Hopkins and Wright:

Hopkins 1: 114-114
Hopkins 2: 114-114
Wright: 114-114

There are people on both sides of the fence that say Jermain won 1, 2, or all of those fights, and there are some who say he lost 1, 2, or all of those fights.

For me, no matter what way you slice it, Taylor has proven to be trouble for the cream of the crop. Hopkins had a decade of dominance before Taylor and immediately looked dominant again in his return at 175. You can argue he lost any of those fights, but that doesn't change the fact that he's shown he can hang with the elite guys in the sport and give them trouble, even if he doesn't overwhelm us in the process.

I can easily call out any undefeated fighter right now waiting for his inevitable loss and then claim I told all of you that he was overhyped. If Jermain ends up beating Pavlik, there will still be people saying "Big deal, Jermain beat a guy who only got his hype by beating an overrated, weight-drained Miranda. Jermain will get schooled, you'll see."

Wow, it's really reaching out on a limb when you predict that a guy who's had close and controversial decisions and continues to fight top names is going to lose a fight.

 

I totally agree with you, and you know I do.

Unfortunately at this point your thread could be interpreted as bandwagoneering, when in reality you have said this for such a long time.

When someone said what you say now before the Spinks match, alot of people would lynch you or mark you insane. Right now, things have changed in one match only.

Still I give this post my mark of approval.:good

 

Pavlik will have to knock Taylor out. Even if he outpoints him, it's 60-40 in Taylor's favor as to whether or not Pavlik will actually get the nod.

Anyway, he hung in pretty tight with Hopkins two times, and Wright, so he deserves some form of credit, I suppose. But yeah.. as time has gone on, he's shown no will to being a true champion. Hopkins may have been 90% money motivated since beating Trinidad, but atleast he still went in and fought like he was still the champ. At this point and time, Taylor's more than happy to just hold his title way up over his head, rather than actually defending it. He even vaguely admitted so after his fight with Spinks, when he said something to the effect of " I'm the champ, if he wants to be the champ he has to TAKE it ".. which pretty much translates into Taylor believing he can just coast through a fight without having to put any real effort into it.

 

What's better, wiping out opponents who are not on your skill level or having close fights with the best of the division?

Enough of this crap, I see a lot of people saying "Man! I wish fighters would take more risks and fight better opposition!" Jermain Taylor does this, and of course if you fight that sort of talent, it's not going to be a cakewalk. And now cause he is doing what people want, he gets critized for having such close fights by the SAME PEOPLE! Screw you guys!

It's sad, even if JT takes the fight with Pavlik, all these Taylor haters are going to be excited thinking about Pavlik KOing Taylor (I think it's a 50/50 fight and no way Pavlik would 'destroy' Taylor), I wouldn't be suprised if Taylor got no respect for taking the fight in the first place.

Well, I guess all I can do is sit back, and watch all these idiots who say that "Taylor will eventually lose". Yes, eventually he will..I am pretty sure every fighter will eventually lose unless the retire early.

 

Taylor beat Pavlik in amateurs and they have proved out to be the top 2 160's in the world. Taylor IS WILLING TO FIGHT/FACE the best. People can dislike him or his style if they choose, but SHOULD respect at least that much:good

 

Thank you this was very well put:amen

 

hard fight next up for jermain , if he comes through it he will have proved all his doubters wrong.

i thought taylor beat wright .

hopkins simply fought absolutley stupid 2 fights with taylor.

i dont care who you fight if you do not let your hands go for 12 out of 24 rounds you are 12 rounds down v anybody .

5 punches a round just does not cut it.

 

Trash, then how come Hopkins or Winky couldn't out box him? :huh

 

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Bhop exposed him as limited, Winky spanked him, Little Ouma pushed him around, and Spinks Outclassed him.

Pavlik will end him once and for all.:yep :good

 

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If Taylor sucks, Hopkins most definitely swallows

 

Indeed he will. Pavlik is gonna destroy this fraud. Early too. :yep

 

Thank you for introducing some common sense. :thumbsup

 

It won't go six.:deal

 

Again, I have no idea how people can say Taylor sucks when both B-Hop and Wright couldn't beat him convincingly. All the people who scored the fight for B-Hop and Wright act as if it was a 120-108 shutout. Guarantee that their scorecards were 115-114 or something like that..but nope, Winky "spanked" Taylor. Hell, after the Winky-Taylor fight, most people thought Taylor won.

Jermain Taylor has a lot to work on, he has not improved the last 2 years and has not won convincingy in a while, but the hypocritical analysis of Taylor is getting old. The guy is a good fighter, he held his own vs P4P talent.