if anyone is going to get exposed it's gonna be the new hype job pavlik. taylor hung with hopkins and wright, yet pavlik is gonna come in and **** taylor, then move up and smash calzaghe and kessler out of the ring, apparently.
He once had potential, but it is clear these fights with p4p talent have taken thier toll, irrefutable after his dismal performance against litgh hitting Spinks. HBO has done a near masterful job of hyping this guy to the public as the next great 160 pounder, but he is not, no matter how many gifts decisions he gets. The hype has ruined Jermaine Taylor, and it will be complete very soon. Maybe then, he can go back to the drawing board and make some desperately needed improvemnts and become the fighter everyone says he is, but everyone knows he's not.
So it's Taylor's fault for the way Wright and Hopkins fought? What happened to the Hopkins who always executed his game plan perfectly? So you're telling me that Taylor is an overrated bum because he gave Wright and Hopkins problems? Re-explain your theory to me, because it doesn't make sense. I agree with you in a Calzaghe vs Taylor fight. Calzaghe, I think, is a fighter who would beat up Taylor. He would easily out-work Taylor with his speed combinations and he is strong enough to not get bullied around by Taylor natural physical abilities.
I gave him the benefit of a doubt in his fights with BHop and Winky, but not Ouma and Spinks. I thought for absolute sure he would've starched Spinks, he had so many advantages to take charge of that fight, but he just chose not to. And I think that's why the majority of people are giving him ****.. he's merely doing just enough to survive, and as long as he feels the judges will always give him the nod when fights cut closely, he will continue to do so.
People are underestimating Pavlik again, which is laughable. Not only was he taking flush shots from one of the best punchers in the division, but he also spotted a weakness that nobody else Miranda has ever fought was able to spot. He spotted the fact that Miranda wasn't good at fighting backwards and he was RIGHT. Anybody who thinks Pavlik is just gonna let Taylor play this fight as safely as possible is thoroughly mistaking. He's gonna take Taylor to deep waters.
Yup. HBO ripped off Hopkins and Wright and tried to pump up this fraud as the next big thing, but the boxing public knows better now. You can't turn water into wine, even if you are the most powerful network into the sport!! :yep
that they got hornswaggled? i'm going to be as happy as anyone when this guy finally gets his come-uppance, but i have a feeling the huggers won't be going away when it does. he's one of those guys that will still have some ardent supporters no matter what, like tarver.
How is the guy overhyped is practically 75 percent of boxing fans here think he sucks ass? If you're talking about simply HBO, sure he is overhyped. But overall, with the entire media and boxing fans included, this guy is not overhyped by any means. Your theory doesn't make sense to me because you are playing the "what could of happened" card. B-Hop had a chance in the rematch to fight more aggresively, why didn't he?? Whether people like it or not, Taylor competes with the best fighters. You're right, Taylor hasn't been a dominant champion and I am probably just fuming at my overall anger at some hypocrite fans here but I read that most people want to see fighters fight the best. JT has done this and people want to see dominant wins. The only fight that JT should of dominated in his recent performances was Spinks..and wasn't Spinks the ring #1 Light Middleweight (I could very well be wrong here). He clearly did beat the other former 154 fighter, Kassim Ouma. Overall, it just ticks me off to see some boxing fans say that they wish fighters would fight better opponents and not care about being undefeated. Then they tell someone who does what they want that they aren't being dominant enough. Idiotic to say the least.
You don't get it man, it's the GIFT DECISIONS. Taylor was "competitive," sure - but he should have LOST three fights in a row, and he WOULD have if it wasn't for the power of HBO, and most boxing fans know it!! That's what the fans are pissed about, and they SHOULD be!:fire
What I don't understand is who is overhyping him RIGHT NOW? People on this board hate him, and the others are frustrated with his recent performances. Then, you have HBO, who initially was giddy that Taylor stepped up to Hopkins, but have you really heard much hype from them through the Ouma and Spinks broadcasts? They seemed concerned about him too. You know who's overhyping? The people who want to see Taylor lose. They all know it'll happen and need there to be a group against them saying he's the bestest so they can say "Told you so!" A year ago, sure, there was a lot of praise, but the only hype job now is from the Anti-Taylor bandwagon. They need him to be up so they can take him down when he loses.
Don't look at me, man - I've been saying the same thing about Taylor since DAY ONE, when he got his first gift-wrapped HBO decision. There were only a few of us back then who said this guy was over-hyped, shouldn't be on the P4P list, etc. And Taylor has done NOTHING but prove us right ever since. And he WILL get starched by Pavlik. I might add I was saying THAT before the Miranda fight, too. :yep
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl They damn well did! Too bad about the extensive checklist being lost, but we'll have a place for this joke in the pound for pound chinless rankings.
Well, on your scoreboard, sure. But in very close fights like those three, it's natural that not everyone is going to score the same. The problem on this board is that everyone expects that in close fights the judges scorecards should match their scorecard exactly. If that doesn't happen it's labelled as "robbery" or "a gift wrapped decisions." Sure, there are definitely bad decisions in boxing, but Jermain's three very close fights were not bad decisions. You just have many bitter revisionists who can't handle the idea that Jermain was even competitive against Hopkins and Wright, let alone victorious.
Good post. I'm a huge Hopkins fan, and I thought Hopkins lost both those fights. I have no idea how someone could call those gift decisions, same goes for the fight with Winky. Go watch Whitaker/Chavez or Lewis/Holyfield I if you want to see a gift decision. Here's another thing, Jermain Taylor is not judging the fights. There's no reason to hate him because the judges felt that he won the fight. Taylor fears no one and always gives it his all out there, and tries to please the fans. He tried to give Winky a rematch, it was obvious he was desparately seeking a KO when he fought Ouma so that he could please the fans. He tried to make fights with Mora, Abraham, Castilliejo,and Strum and they all said no. And now he's fighting a guy who everyone says is the biggest threat to him at MW. I certainly don't think that Jermain has displayed elite talent in his last few fights, but he's fighting the best out there, which is what a true champion is supposed to do. It's not like he's some guy defending a paper championship on his home turf against bums before finally deciding to fight legitimate challengers at the age of 34. It's not like he won one big fight and then tried to live off that one victory for almost 2 years while defending his title against past and future fighters from the contender and backing out against a tough challenger one weight class higher because of "injury".