F***-off

"He wouldn't get on a plane. He said he had a fear of flying. Yet I can remember after one fight he flew to the West Indies for a holiday! One time he was supposed to do a press thing in the States and at the airport, he tried to get out of flying. He said: 'This is not a jumbo jet, I'm not getting on it.' I said: 'What are you, an aviation expert? It's a plane, for God's sake.' I put him on a jumbo. Once he got there, brilliant. All the flying was just bull****."

Frank Warren

 

Calzaghe and Jones just wasn't realistic at that time period, Jones-DM was much bigger demand.... Jones was unified LHW champ, Calzaghe was SMW champ... The talk of Calzaghe-Jones was also that the fight would take place in Wales, and Jones would come down to SMW, that Jones supposedly agreed to.

I am not sure what happened to that fight, it had to be a money deal... I think Calzaghe wanted more money than he was going to get at the time... He did make a quote saying it would take the crown jewels to fight Roy Jones, there is no way Roy was not asking for the big money, flying to Wales and dropping weight. While being the big draw and big name, you know he wanted huge money for that risk.

It is sad but it is the nature of the business... Fact is though, Joe was not confident he could even beat Roy, if he was, he would have taken whatever money just for the simple fact that he had everything to gain legacy wise, and would become the best fighter on the planet... Similar to what Jones did to Toney to gain his status.

Though, he knew there was a high risk that he would have just been dismissed as another relatively unknown Jones victim.

 

It's really a stupid thread. It's been proven time and time again that the competition on his resume rivals guys like Hopkins and probably beats it. Could he have done more? Yeah - but not at a time where other guys wouldn't fight him.

 

Yes because its joes fault and joes fault alone that bhop and rjj didnt make the fight when you say it was appropriate

Rjj avoided Dariuz M so maybe its a reoccuring theme that he ducked Joe

Joe was worth no money and didnt want to leave his back yard

Hop and RJJ didnt wanna leave america either and only wanted fights that were worth money

 

Right on!

I've been shouting this since day 1.
Truth is, Calzaghe fans are there more for Nationalism than talent.
Joe Calzaghe's whole career is one BIG JOKE! The only one who made out on Calzaghe's career of winning over BUMS is is manager, Frank Warren.

Calzaghe will go down in history as the slapper who was, KING OF THE BUMS! :rofl:rofl:rofl:yep:deal

 

Everything you say is excrement. Any topic, no matter what it is, you manage to thoroughly embarrass yourself. How exactly has this been "proven time and time again", Professor ****wit???

 

The Road Warrior wouldve beat Joes ass.

 

There is absolutely no comparison in terms of Joe and PBF's resumes, Floyd has fought far surperior competition and it's not even debatable.

 

You really love Joe...

 

Dont blame Frank. Joe had no problem whatsoever making good money of the WBO on home turf. He had no interest in unification bouts or establishing himself as the best guy at 68. He only took those fights in the end because of the exposure he got from beating Lacy and the money he stood to make.

 

What for? Roy Jones was a superstar and JC was a guy no one had heard of outside of the British domestic circuit.

 

Cant believe the op rates Tarver and Griffin wtf? You best believe that Jones had his own rules in his prime just like Hopkins did and just like Mayweather has right now and that makes it all ok eh? Whos telling Mayweather who to fight? You guessed it, no ****er.
Talkin about Joe should have done this and done that, you talk the most ****. Its a business and when push comes to shove the most famous ****in run from Calzaghe.

 

Joe's resume is definitly lacking. Don't get me wrong....it's very good. Better than most. But it's not GREAT! And his ability, talent and skill are all great! So it's kind of like the situation with Floyd. Incredible talent, highly skilled with all the tools necessary to be great......yet his resume falls short of his greatness as a boxer.

Joe and Floyd are similar in many ways...both are undfeated....both are incredible talents who have been accused of not fighting the best and avoiding "challenges". But I think they are both great....even though their resume's fall short of what they show as boxers in the ring....you can't deny their performances with the list of fighters they have faced. Which again....ain't all that bad. It's very good.....just not GREAT!.

 

I havent seen or heard Joe Calzaghe call out top fighters or chase top fighters at post fight interviews, or being ringside. He just would do what Frank Warren would tell him to do. People say no one didnt want to fight him, but he never went out of his way to call out any top fighters at post fight interviews. Calzaghe's weak and lacking resume only has himself to blame, and Frank Warren. Agree with the OP on that and this:

No way an ATG resume. Only a ***zaghi thinks he is an ATG.

 

Tarver was a hungry LHW champ, when Jones dropped down from HW to fight him, by the time the fight happened DM had already been dethroned by a Jones victim that has been called a bum. Jones and Tarver were considered the two best LHW's in the world at that time... Huge risk, and very good victory for Roy, especially considering many believe he has trouble with southpaws.... What is not to rate about beating the #1 LHW in the world after dropping from HW?

Griffin also beat Toney twice and was undefeated when Jones fought him, also had a very awkward style with the ability to make anyone look bad.. Totally underrated and at his best was a damn good fighter...

I don't know if you remember, but back then that was considered a risky fight for Roy.

Like I said in my post above... Calzaghe and Roy fighting back in the day really was not realistic, unless Joe wanted to fight for pretty much what Woods got, and in his own words expressed that it would take the "crown jewels"