F***-off

Talk about reaching. Imagine, though, if Floyd got a fight with Clottey instead of Pac having done so. Or getting an agreement with the winner of the Mosley/Berto fight. Nobody would complain, but if it was someone less than worthy. Of course noise would be made.

 

I think Floyd overplayed his hand. He went in to the negotiation table and treated Pac as he would another fighter. If he is indeed the good businessman that he claimed to be, then he should have done a bit more research on Pac's way of thinking and how respect is treated differently in Pac's culture. After all, if you are trying to do business with a person from Saudi Arabia for example, you wouldn't bring your secretary wearing a very short skirt to the meeting. Floyd would have had a bigger success of getting the Olympic style blood testing that he wants if he just asked for it in the negotiating table and didn't actually say that Pac is on PEDs. Floyd offended Pac without realizing that Pac can walk away from this fight because he thinks that his legacy is already secure and that he does not need the money.

 

Depends how you view it.
Mayweather was insisting on stipulations that as far as I know, have never occured before in boxing.

Pac's in his rights to tell him to **** off.

Do you think that if Pac had agreed on the spot, some new request wouldn't have been made?

Both guys should be ashamed of themselves IMO.


How did Pac pull out anyway? If one guy says I will only fight with X condition, and the other wants Y, and neither will budge, how can you say 1 guy pulled out?

 

This sounds like a post from two weeks ago. Come up to date, bud.

 

Because one guy did??

 

Yeah, well said. You don't insult a guy, bring into doubt that his achievements have been reached without cheating, and then expect to be able to negotiate in good faith.

I'm surprised Pac even came to the table. I'm surprised he didn't just sue for defamation and tell Floyd to **** off back to the WWE.

 

An opinion is never out of date. Besides, this is a boxing site; you know, where people talk about news from fights that happened decades ago.

 

Why? By not agreeing to the other guys requests?

Here's a quote from the front page of this site from Mayweather...

So, proposing a 14 day window, and changing it to a 14 day window is a compromise?

I blame both guys. One guy might have stopped negotiating first, but that really doesn't matter. it's obvious neither were going to budge, so who ****ing cares? It doesn't mean that person pulled out, just that they weren't going to ever agree to the other persons terms. As I said, terms I've never heard of before for a boxing match.

 

What? :rofl

He PULLED OUT. No need for spin.

 

people act like drug testing is an outrageous claim, its something that the sport needs...some people will say that to ask for random blood testing is offensive to pac, and testing that has never been done in the history of boxing and that type of stuff, but if the amatuers do it, doesnt it make sense that the participants in a fight of this magnitude do it as well....and mayweather has demanded this type of testing from the onset of negotiations, so i dont get how people can claim that he used it to duck the fight when it was initially agreed to....all of mannys statements are 'we dont need mayweather, we'll fight yuri, we'll fight paulie, we'll fight clottey', and all of mayweathers statements have been in attempts to make a fight with manny, so how can someone say that manny didnt duck the fight? i like the guy as a fighter, but the actions of his people have been suspicious

 

Actually I think it shows who is harder to negotiate with. Who knows how long it's going to take Mayweather to bang out the stipulations of his next fight.

 

I agree with that. But that's something for commissions and organisations to bring in and enforce, not for a fighter to dictate to his opponent.

Which other fighter has Mayweather demanded this from?

By even raising the issue, it's accusing the other guy of being on the gear. Unless it's done for every fight, which clearly it's not.

 

if any fight is going to set a standard it should be this one, the magnitude of the event i believe warrants special testing...i think the way pac has carried his power and physique up thru the ranks has people curious (although his recent fight night weights arent drastically different, but his appearance imo has changed, it may be a product of weight draining i dont kno) , i see it as more of a testament to how impressive pac is than it is an accusation and if he were truly innocent i believe he would look at it as such. But in todays society where PED use is prevelant among athletes, it is floyds right to make sure they are fighting on an even playing field...i dont kno if pac is juicing or not, but its kinda curious how he can just eat shots from cotto with no pause

 

Roach being a GOD on these boards....im not sure why the fight didnt come together....roach this, roach that, roach wont let him fight this guy, roach wants that guy...now its arums fault.......roach let alot of money go bye bye.....
obviously being a smart ass...for all the people who think roach runs the show 100%

 

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