F***-off

how can you have an opinion like that is you havent watched the fight. a new trainer will not cure what ails pavlik my friend. a new career might.

 

As far as Taylor 2 -- at that point, regardless of who people thought won the fight -- I felt making a big deal of it wasn't necessary at the time. After seeing Taylor vs Spinks, I also picked him to lose the 1st bout to Pavlik, who had fought Miranda that same night. Pavlik almost got taken out in the second, but to his credit he won.

I thought Pav lost the rematch with Taylor by a hair, but I doubt I posted about it on this site. Kelly deserved his time to shine, so he should have had it. I thought Pav would win tonight, but he didn't. Sergio deserves his time to shine tonight, and that can't be disputed.

 

All credit to Martinez, considering it was his left hand that sliced Pavlik's eye open.

 

bute losing to pavlik is a joke. bute is a big, 168 pounder, with good skills and can be slick, and has recently shown good power in his punches. bute is like martinez but bigger and with power. pavlik would suffer a brutal ko.

 

kp is garbage...not the same fighter that fought jt..garbage fighter with little skill.alot of heart but very little skill..only effective against fighters he could intimidate and after bhop whooped him he couldn't intimdate anymore fighters as he was exposed....

 

What Pavlik doesn't have is confidence. He's never going to get that from his corner. He needs a new trainer who's gonna make him a better fighter. He doesn't have to be the fastest or the most coordinated. He just needs to go back to the basics and focus on his strong points. Most of all, he needs to learn how to use his body to his advantage. He could be a big SM. He needs to use his length to his advantage in fights.

 

True. I didn't believe Martinez could pull this off. I thought he was too small to do it, but he still won decisively. I've never said Pavlik can't be relevant again; that's something him and his team have to sort out. He lost to Sergio tonight.

I was wrong about Martinez, who deserves so much credit for what he did tonight. That's pretty much it.

 

Agreed. Pavlik is done.

 

stupid fans and stupid people always let their emotions get the better of them after a fight.. i havent read the whole tread but just so you know pavlik is relevant.. he's fighting at the highest level and for championships.. one fight doesnt make or break a career.. and im not even a pavlik fan but damn stop with this stupid threads

:hat

 

he's not that bad. he's just slow footed. styles make fights. if pac had been fighting fleet footed counterpunchers the last few years people wouldn't be putting him at the top of # for # lists. Pav looks like a monster against the right type of fighter.

 

:huh

 

:thumbsupAgreed good insight.

 

He will be relevant, but his Achilles heel will be skilled boxers with good lateral movement and speed, like Martinez. This rock'em sock'em robot was good enough to hand Taylor his first two defeats, one being by KO. If beating an undefeated elite "Top Shelf Fighter" isn't good enough in your book to be considered of having any "Real skill" or being top shelf or relevant, but just a rock'em sock'em robot, then you must have some tough standards or simply double standards.