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lufcrazy · Jul 26, 2010

PIPO23 said: ↑

It's a bit over the top mate.
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lol i dont care, i wouldnt step in the ring with him lol.

dan-b · Jul 26, 2010

darryl1914 said: ↑

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You guys are awesome...THAT'S THE POINT OF THE ARTICLE: THERE WAS NO CHALLENGE!!!!:-( Arum made a deal / Signed a fight with Margarito and NEVER TALK WITH ANYONE ON THE MAYWEATHER SIDE.
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Do you seriously believe it's that black and white? Who cares anyway? Seriously, grow up. The most important thing here is that the two best fighters in the world are not fighting each other. I don't watch boxing to hear what fat businessmen, such as Arum and Ellerbe, have to say.

kobefan · Jul 26, 2010

PIPO23 said: ↑

Proof is in your face.

:happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar77IluOLxc
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****in' ****! DON'T SHOW THIS VIDEO TO FLOYD.
He'll EXTEND his vacation :hat

Relentless · Jul 26, 2010

lets say arum lied and no negotiation took place.....

why didn't floyds team try contacting arums to try get the fight made if they wanted it so badly?

AFBlues · Jul 26, 2010

darryl1914 said: ↑

Source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...lying-by-top-rank-insider-days-before-ellerbe

Article:
Bob Arum Called Out for Lying by Top Rank Insider

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Defending Bob Arum is quite hard for a number of reasons. He's a famous liar, well-known to veteran fans as a promoter that tends to totally exaggerate negotiations to ensure that he comes out looking holier than thou.Team Mayweather wasn't even the first to make these claims. It's been coming out of his own camp.

Michael Marley, the day after Arum's infamous "teleconference," came right out and said it. This was days before Leonard Ellerbe spoke.
Marley, a Top Rank/Pacquiao writer, and a close friend of Arum's, was just as perplexed by Arum's deadline. He didn't get it; he couldn't work out what Arum was up to. So he went digging. He spoke to his Top Rank people, and was shocked with the answer. Again, this was days before Ellerbe spoke.

Negotiation just hadn't been happening. They'd started, briefly, but capitulated almost instantly, according to Marley.
Marley claimed that Arum had only spoken to Greenburg once, months ago. And that conversation was little more than Arum telling him his demands. Demands that Golden Boy just weren't interested in.
That's basically it. No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.
Bob Arum, according to Marley, just spent the next five weeks "blowing smoke to the media," to try and confuse the situation and giving the impression that he was breaking his back to make the deal.
When in truth, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was the last thing Arum wanted for 2010.

Why did the talks fail? According to Marley, contrary to most reports, Pacquiao was unwilling to move an inch on drug testing. And Mayweather was unwilling to move an inch on money. Pretty predictable.

So what actually happened? According to Marley, Arum made these claims days before anyone from team Mayweather spoke out.
Well, Arum has allegedly been fixing a Pacquiao vs. Margarito bout in the Middle East for months. But he knew full well that he couldn't make the fight without being seen to be trying to make Mayweather vs. Pacquiao first.

Plus, HBO, after pressure from Golden Boy, flat out told him that he'd have to approach Mayweather first, or they would not work on a Margarito fight. Arum, according to Marley, approached Greenburg with his terms for the fight. Terms, Marley suspects, that were never going to be accepted. Terms, that in regards to drug testing, were even worse than the last fight.
That's basically it. Golden Boy felt Arum was not being serious, and had no intention of negotiating further.
Arum played the media, and proclaimed that he was "waiting for Floyd to accept his offer." Which, I guess, was technically true. The big lie came with Arum's claims that these terms had been negotiated and accepted.
Marley claims that this is just 100 percent false. There were no real talks. No deals. No agreements. No contracts.
Arum's offer. Countdown clock. Lots of BS about "terms being agreed by both sides."
Mayweather's people are technically speaking the truth as well. There were never any negotiations, talks, agreements, deals. Just Arum blowing smoke to the press.
Why did Arum exaggerate his efforts so much? Because he wanted to set up Margarito vs. Pacquiao and couldn't justify it without trying to pin the blame on someone else.
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darryl1914 · Jul 26, 2010

Relentless said: ↑

lets say arum lied and no negotiation took place.....

why didn't floyds team try contacting arums to try get the fight made if they wanted it so badly?
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This is just so sad. Your whole post is about what someone should have done...Instead of ACKNOWLEDGING the Flat-out LIE to cover up the fact that he wanted Pacquiao to fight someone else!!!! If he had just come out and said: "I would like to have my best fighter attempt to get an unprecedented 7th world title by fighting for the 154lbs title before we officially begin negotiation with Floyd Mayweather". There is nothing wrong with that...In fact, a lot of fight fans would truly understand that. Personally, I would rather him fight a fighter with real ability for that 7th title...But Still I (and other fans) would understand this. But to make-up ****...including some BULL**** deadline knowing you already had a fighter inked and a signed deal...THAT'S JUST FOUL. And the fact that posters (the usual idiots) fell for this HOOK, LINE AND SINKER...IS JUST PLAIN PATHETIC!!!! As Kool Moe Dee once said: "IF YOU HAVE TO LIE, AT LEAST KEEP IT REAL!!!"

ciscobox · Jul 26, 2010

Relentless said: ↑

lets say arum lied and no negotiation took place.....

why didn't floyds team try contacting arums to try get the fight made if they wanted it so badly?
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this.
and how about the "good" comments on some interviews made by dela hoya and other GB boys about the progress on negotiations for the fight?

this is getting ridiculous.

Little Pea · Jul 26, 2010

Relentless said: ↑

lets say arum lied and no negotiation took place.....

why didn't floyds team try contacting arums to try get the fight made if they wanted it so badly?
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Exactly.

This is the biggest ****ing fight of all time.

Arum lying about fake negotiation.
Mayweather's team hearing all the BS from Arum in the media.
Mayweather's team doing nothing.
:think Do they want that fight?

SO funny.

ciscobox · Jul 26, 2010

darryl1914 said: ↑

This is just so sad. Your whole post is about what someone should have done...Instead of ACKNOWLEDGING the Flat-out LIE to cover up the fact that he wanted Pacquiao to fight someone else!!!! If he had just come out and said: "I would like to have my best fighter attempt to get an unprecedented 7th world title by fighting for the 154lbs title before we officially begin negotiation with Floyd Mayweather". There is nothing wrong with that...In fact, a lot of fight fans would truly understand that. Personally, I would rather him fight a fighter with real ability for that 7th title...But Still I (and other fans) would understand this. But to make-up ****...including some BULL**** deadline knowing you already had a fighter inked and a signed deal...THAT'S JUST FOUL. And the fact that posters (the usual idiots) fell for this HOOK, LINE AND SINKER...IS JUST PLAIN PATHETIC!!!! As Kool Moe Dee once said: "IF YOU HAVE TO LIE, AT LEAST KEEP IT REAL!!!"
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yeah, arum is well known liar. get over it, everyone already knows that. But the whole point is to get the fight made right? floyd should have just give out some statements earlier. btw, you look as you have a personal grudge on that fat ass business man.

Little Pea · Jul 26, 2010

ciscobox said: ↑

this.
and how about the "good" comments on some interviews made by dela hoya and other GB boys about the progress on negotiations for the fight?

this is getting ridiculous.
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Yes, how about that.
I would like the TS to comment about that.

(I would like to say that i'm a ******* and a *****)

YelloLabs · Jul 26, 2010

t-boy said: ↑

For the past few months, the boxing word has been a buzz with talks about the pending negotiation. This was confirmed by Oscar himself as quoted by Boom boom. When asked about the status of the fight, the ready answer by Oscar, Arum, Schiffer and company is - there is a gag order. Strange that they said this if there was no negotiation that took place. What was the point of the gag order then?

How come nobody in the Floyd camp disavowed any knowledged of the said negotiation until after the deadline when almost everyone was already calling Floyd a coward? Floyd himself did not bother to set the record straight if not true.

It would be hard to believe that a shrewd promoter/lawyer like Arum would issue public statements like these for the past few months and put himself in a vulnerable position when put into question by the other camp. A reasonable man can only assume that he was telling the truth.
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This is FACT!!! YES with PROOF vs article speculation . . life goes on :deal

Cocteau · Jul 26, 2010

Leon said: ↑

Meh, I don't care anymoar. I just want May of next year to come. If the fight doesn't happen by then it will never go down.
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Same.

I lost interest.

AFBlues · Jul 26, 2010

YelloLabs said: ↑

This is FACT!!! YES with PROOF vs article speculation . . life goes on :deal
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Too much politics and it's killing boxing. Too much speculation, bickering, annoying blog posts and thousands of idiots arguing on the internet about who caused what and who would knock who out. Welcome to ESB!

dan-b · Jul 26, 2010

darryl1914 said: ↑

This is just so sad. Your whole post is about what someone should have done...Instead of ACKNOWLEDGING the Flat-out LIE to cover up the fact that he wanted Pacquiao to fight someone else!!!! If he had just come out and said: "I would like to have my best fighter attempt to get an unprecedented 7th world title by fighting for the 154lbs title before we officially begin negotiation with Floyd Mayweather". There is nothing wrong with that...In fact, a lot of fight fans would truly understand that. Personally, I would rather him fight a fighter with real ability for that 7th title...But Still I (and other fans) would understand this. But to make-up ****...including some BULL**** deadline knowing you already had a fighter inked and a signed deal...THAT'S JUST FOUL. And the fact that posters (the usual idiots) fell for this HOOK, LINE AND SINKER...IS JUST PLAIN PATHETIC!!!! As Kool Moe Dee once said: "IF YOU HAVE TO LIE, AT LEAST KEEP IT REAL!!!"
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Stop crying. Seriously go take a walk, look up at the sky, amaze yourself with the concept of consciousness and time. Don't waste time thumbing through countless press releases in an attempt to attain the edge for "your man". It's futile and pathetic.

Wig · Jul 26, 2010

dan-b said: ↑

Stop crying. Seriously go take a walk, look up at the sky, amaze yourself with the concept of consciousness and time. Don't waste time thumbing through countless press releases in an attempt to attain the edge for "your man". It's futile and pathetic.
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says the man with six thousand posts :hi:

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