F*&# Ring....here are the REAL p4p top 10

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  1. ssabripo

    ssabripo Active Member Full Member

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    courtesy of yours truly of course :smoke


    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Shane Mosley
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Miguel Cotto
    7. Ricky Hatton
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Vic Darchinyan
    10. Paul Williams
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still have no idea how Paul Williams, not only 12 months ago schooled by a fighter he should've knocked out in 3, not 13 rounds, would be on any P4P list. Close Margarito win 2 years ago, ok. But it took 2 fights to beat Quintana and he lost most rounds, then and beat Kolle (who?) and Phillips (who) since then. How the **** does that qualify for the P4P list? He doesn't even hold a legitimate title. Max Kellerman and The Ring was on Williams nuts lately, but I just can't believe how people jump on this one. No offense, it's your list. But where's Rafael Marquez?
     
  3. pijo

    pijo Feed the Pope Full Member

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    I thought the same about Marquez. How can you have Vasquez at 5 but not R.Marquez, did you see their third fight?
     
  4. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Not a bad list.

    I have P-Will a little further down.

    Where is Rafa Marquez?
     
  5. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    good list but williams should be just entering at 10, 9 pushing it
     
  6. venomus_p4p

    venomus_p4p Guest

    P. Williams does not deserve a ranking that high
     
  7. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Israel Vazquez
    5. Shane Mosley
    6. Rafael Marquez
    7. Miguel Cotto
    8. Paul Williams
    9. Ivan Calderon
    10. Ricky Hatton
    11. Juan Manuel Lopez
    12. Vic Darchinyan
    13. Chad Dawson
    14. Kelly Pavlik
    15. Nonito Donaire
    16. Nate Campbell
    17. Celestino Caballero
    18. Vitalai Klitschko
    19. Wladimir Klitschko
    20. Jermain Taylor
     
  8. ssabripo

    ssabripo Active Member Full Member

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    sorry fellas....I made a mistake when I did the copy and paste....I fixed it. I meant that P. Williams cracked the 10, vic at 9, etc.

    ctrl-v + ctrl-c ftmfl !!


    by the way, I didn't have Rafa Marquez because he's lost twice in a row to Israel....yes, all out wars, but still losses. Vic deserves to be up there with his last 3 performances against champions. I hestitated putting Williams, but his wins are a bit better quality than those of JuanMa, which I had at a very close 11th
     
  9. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    deceant explanation :smooch
     
  10. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    how do you define p4p?

    as for me, 50% accomplishment(past), 50% how would he look if he fights today(future fights)...

    that's why i had lopez pretty high. PW is high also bec you must forget his loss to quintana for he redeemed himself by beating quintana..i can't rank darchinyan bec he is still has to redeem his loss to donaire. Look, if Darch and Donaire had a rematch @ 115, i bet the betting would be close and wont be surprise if donaire would be the favorite.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Because anyone who knows boxing can see Williams is a beast. He can fight from 147-160 that's what P4P is all about. A green Williams beat a loaded gloves Margo at his own game. He's getting better and no one at 147 will fight him. If anything he's underrated.:deal
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    What has Marquez done lose two in a row to Vasquez? He should be dropped he hasn't won a fight in over a year.:deal
     
  13. Flam1ngo

    Flam1ngo Member Full Member

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    Where is Kessler?
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    1. Manny Pacquiao
    Keeps on winning after the split decision against Marquez despite moving up in weight, time and time again.

    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    I felt he beat Pacquiao twice, and moving up to stop the never knocked out Casamayor is a big achievement.

    3. Bernard Hopkins
    His shutout over Kelly Pavlik was astonishing considering his age.

    4. Israel Vasquez
    Two back to back wins over a nother great 122lb fighter in Rafael Marquez.

    5. Ivan Calderon

    Undefeated, has to move up just to get competitive bouts.

    6. Shane Mosley
    Destroyed Antonio Margarito, and looked great doing it.

    7. Vic Darchinyan
    Destroyed Mijares and Arce, two of the best fighters in their respective weight divisions.

    8. Rafael Marquez
    Was competitive with Izzy in both of their epic bouts, beating him in their first fight. Will have to do something noteworthy to stay on the list soon.

    9. Miguel Cotto
    Was not disgraced by the Margarito fight, and his ability is enough to keep him on the list.

    10. Paul Williams
    The guy blew out his only loss in devatsating fashion in the rematch, is moving up and stopping Middleweights. He has to be on the list.
     
  15. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    21...john at 22...diaz at 23