He holds wins over the little players left in the 140lb division. He beat Urango, who just beat the **** outta Ngoudjo. He beat the **** outta Paulie, who although looked like garbage in his previous fights won them nonetheless He beat Lazcano and has been holding his undisputed 140lb reign intact... You look too much into his **** performances @ 147. Paul Williams got schooled by Quintana. Hatton was only schooled by PBF. Paul Williams had a really close fight with Margarito Hatton had a really close fight with Collazo (at a weight he sucks at) Those two are interchangeable really...
ok mate..i just put more premium on the perception of the public in making p4p..like what i've said 50% resume, 50% how you look... i can't put darchinyan 10 spots above donaire when i know if they fight, the odds would be the same. i wont be surprise if donaire is still the favorite..p4p to be is the one who beat who..not entirely on resume. that is why marquez is still there. because he is close to vasquez. they are evenly matched and odds would tend to move in that direction..
So you put him in the top 10 P4P based on a win over Juan Urango, Juan Lazcano, and Paulie? I prefer a win over Antonio Margarito, a first round stoppage over Quintana, and moving up to Middleweight to stop Phillips.
how the **** can jmm be the second best p4p fighter in the world ??? wat has he done to even get a top 5 ranking ? beat an ancient casa and lose to pac, barrera, john, i hate it when ****ing idiots get caught up in the hype vic darchinyan has accomplished way more then jmm i wouldve thought that was kinda obvious by beaten the likes of mijares, kirilov, arce, burgos and been one of the only fighters to unify the 115 pound division
its just not all about accomplishments. you gotta factor in jmms' talent and boxing ability as well. nobody can deny that the man is one the top technicians in our sport. i totally feel you about vic though. its crazy how some dont even have him in theyre top 10 atsch
The Ring P4P Top 10 Manny Pacquiao JMM B Hop Israel Vasquez Mosley Raf Marquez Ivan Calderon Hatton Caballero Vic Darchiniyan So your rankings have two fighters differrent to the Ring magazine and its Ratings advisory board made up of 20 odd boxing folks from all around the world. Gee - That's a huge controversy.
1) Manny Pacquiao 2) Bernard Hopkins 3) Shane Mosley 4) Juan Manuel Marquez 5) Israel Vazquez 6) Ivan Calderon 7) Vic Darchinyan 8 )Ricky Hatton 9) Miguel Cotto 10) Paul Williams
1. Hopkins 2. Mosley 3. Hatton 4. Cotto 5. Pacquiao 6. Pavlik 7. Calderon 8. Taylor 9. Darchinyan 10. Vasquez/Marquez - not JMM
1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Juan Manuel Marquez 3. Bernard Hopkins 4. Israel Vazquez 5. Shane Mosley 6. Vic Darchinyan 7. Miguel Cotto 8. Rafael Marquez 9. Ivan Calderon 10. Paul Williams It is just baffling how some of you can leave Vic outta your Top 10. What more does a guy have to do?? What the guy has achieved recently has been nothing short of remarkable. He should have been in there after he beat P4P #5 Mijares, and then moved up after destroying Arce.
Abraham shouldn't be in ANYONE's lists. The guy's best win is an OVERRATED Miranda. Hardly P4P worthy.