fab 4 era overrated?

I can imagine Duran beating Floyd tell he cries for his dad to stop the fight. A motivated on his game Duran would stop Floyd and unlike Duran, Floyd wouldn't even get in the ring with Hagler and Hearns, and SRL would either stop him by TKO or win a lopsided decision.

 

btw, the fab four aren't only admired for their skill and boxing abilities, they're also admired for their willingness to fight each other and risk their "'0's" (or a lose) something mayweather could've learnt from, but didn't.

 

:deal This. Fab 4 mentality--- "That guy is good, im gonna fight him".

Mayweather mentality--- "Hahaha! That guy is slow and weak-- i 'll fight him".

 

Yes, they're overrated.

Duran wasn't that good after the first Leonard fight. The DeJesus and Leonard II fights are evidence that he always had difficulty with boxers.

Hearns was flawed. His collapse against Leonard was embarrassing (most greats know how to clinch and fight hurt), he fought idiotically against Hagler in a winnable fight, and managed to get iced by Iran Barkley, who was not a great fighter.

Leonard fought stupidly against Duran and had a spotty defense. He was great, but not invincible. His prime was fairly short and over a limited weight range. Was busy doing coke and getting lit up by Norris and Camacho at an age when Mayweather remained prime.

Benitez was an rarity for being successful at such a young age. He was too shaky to truly be considered great in normal terms.

I have no real dispute for Hagler. However, Hopkins' overall resume has clearly surpassed his and saying otherwise is overrating Hagler severely.

 

Which DeJesus fight was that? The two he KO'd him in. The second Dejesus fight is Duran fighting at a level few fighters have ever fought at. It's pretty hard to call yourself a boxing fan if you can't appreciate that. And SRL is a pure pleasure to watch, as was Hearns and Hagler. Floyd too is fun to watch. Boxing is boxing and if you enjoy boxing you appreciate those who are good at it, regardless of the era in which they fought.

 

fighting the best is overrated? Any fighter can be beaten by any style, but the fact these guys fought them all is why they are celebrated, and that includes Ali and his group Frazier,Foreman and Norton. We know many guys could have beaten that group also, and they did. It is the competitiveness and courage which was different, and the different styles and the fact they all fought each other in totally different fights. Also, what lacks in many other eras like Oscar and Pacman and Floyd are the great action fights. Something was missing that was there with the fab 4.

 

The one who beat Roberto Duran in his prime. Thanks, that did need clarifying.

 

**** this ****.

Leonard and Duran are two blessings upon followers of this sport and asswipes still find a way to complain.

 

I say they are not overrated... but as with most things, a case can be made either way.


Leonard beat Benitez (KO15), Duran 2 (KO8 and W12) out of 3, Hearns (KO14), and Hagler. He also drew with Hearns. A case can be made that he should have lost once to Hearns and that his fight with Hagler should have been a draw or even a loss. Regardless, going 5-1-1 (3) vs. these P4P greats is very impressive.

Hearns beat Duran (KO2) and Benitez. He gave Leonard hell twice but lost and had to settle for a draw in their rematch (many felt he won). He went to war with Hagler but was stopped in 3. He went 2-2-1 (1) vs. these greats. (stopped 2x) He also beat a prime Virgil Hill convincingly.

Hagler beat Hearns (KO3) and Duran. He lost a close decision to Leonard. I always wondered how Benitez would have done vs. Hagler. 2-1 (1)

Benitez did well vs. Leonard but was stopped in the 15th. He gave Hearns a bit of trouble but lost by decision, he decisioned Duran. 1-2 (stopped once)

Duran went to war with Leonard and won by close decision in their first fight. Leonard frustrated Duran into quitting in their rematch, Duran was easily outboxed by Leonard in their 3rd fight. Duran was knocked out in the 2nd vs. Hearns. Duran gave Hagler a tougher than expected fight but lost by decision. Duran was outboxed and lost by decision to Benitez. 1-5 (stopped 2x)

You have to talk about Benitez when you talk about these guys... at least 3 of these guys anyway.

 

What he siad, LOOK PEOPLE READ WHAT HE SAID HE GOT IT RIGHT!!!!!!!

 

There's really nothing to debate here why would these guy be considered great and not overrated. These are the guy in their time that created new boxing fans all of them brought excitement to the game of boxing the put many many fans in the seats. People looked up to them and they were concidered by some as hero's of that time. They were admired and loved by fanatic and just your big fight fans. Overrated not in a million years, I'm thinking you are running out of topics to debate. That must be the reason for this thread.

 

Yes they are overrated:

Hearns in nothing but a low workrate version of Paul Williams.

Duran is nothing but a weaker chinned version of Carlos Baldomir.

Leonard is less sugary than a well matured Sugar Shane.

Hagler is nothing but a black version of Miguel Cotto with less hand speed.

 

Very well said!...All 4 of them would have exposed Mayweather for what he really is!..And what he isnt is a risk taker with some backbone