Fabio Turchi vs. Tony Conquest & Andrea Scarpa vs. Joe Hughes + Boschiero vs. Ward RBR.

UnleashtheFURY · Nov 30, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

They're both ****, but I refuse to hold that against a band as brilliant as Pantera was, because they spawned a bunch of idiot lemmings.
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I still don't see what's so brilliant about Pantera. Care to explain to me? For me it's just a lame watered down version of Thrash Metal that wasn't all that original. I'll throw them a bone and will say Cowboys isn't a bad album but even that isn't what most chalk it up to be. Spare me the mimed arguments about they supposedly saved metal. I want something actually intellectual and well thought out. Feel free to PM as we've already derailed this thread enough as it is.

IntentionalButt · Nov 30, 2018

Round 3

Turchi starting to connect on the whipping left hand and right hook. Conquest blinking off shots as he gets banged on the nose but still jabbing his way in, holding when he needs to when stunned or just to stem Turchi's momentum. Good body work by Conquest. Turchi pawing with the right jab, tickling Conquest under the chin with it.

10-9 Turchi, close

29-28 Conquest

dinovelvet · Nov 30, 2018

Former rugby player turned boxer Tony Conquest was destined for big things by Boxnation. He was even a commentator for a brief period before it all went tits up and he retired. His passion and love for the sport motivated him to make a comeback. Twud be good to see him claim another win here

CST80 · Nov 30, 2018

UnleashtheFURY said: ↑

Black Metal is more rooted in hardcore punk and D-Beat than anything else. And conceptually they take their ques from Venom more than anything else. Even when it's cringe at least it didn't start as a lamestream big label gimmick of Thrash Metal like Pantera did.
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Pantera were a pariah, they shocked the world when Far Beyond Driven debuted at number 1, MTV hated them, didn't cover them hardly ever outside of Headbanger's Ball, there was nothing mainstream about Pantera at the time, at all. It wasn't "trendy" or "cool" at all when they first showed up. They succeeded against all odds, they weren't pushed by the lamestream anything. And I'm sure @IntentionalButt can attest to that.

N17 · Nov 30, 2018

Conquest is in trouble.

Something went wonky at the end of that round.

UnleashtheFURY · Nov 30, 2018

IntentionalButt said: ↑

Phil was a very good song craftsman, and in his nick (before the rigors of his career did to his chords what Sasha Grey's probably did to her gash) a veritable ATG vocalist.

I also hardcore Stan the oft-forgotten member of the group, Rex Brown (an underrated bassist, and good producer on a few tracks for Crowbar & Down...)

As for the Abbott bros, though - eh. Never really cared for them (especially Vinnie). I respect Dime's talent, of course, but the pair of them were just a couple of Texan dorks who as late as their early twenties were still proud members of the Kiss Army. Gag me with a spoon. One a virtuoso guitarist, the other a serviceable drummer - on their own, without Phil, never would have become household names. When they formed their own group(s) - it was exactly the kind of white trash fake tough guy schlock that UTF is referring to. Damageplan, and whatever their other group was.
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I've always dug Phil. Down are a lot better than Pantera overall. Phil ruined his brain with drugs though and thus most of his projects are ******ed.

JordanK2406 · Nov 30, 2018

Turchi 10 9 Close
Turchi 39 37
Both fighters are slipping about like there on ice

f1ght3rz · Nov 30, 2018

Fabio Turchi vs. Tony Conquest
12 rounds @ Cruiserweight

Round 1: 10-9 Conquest
Round 2: 10-9 Conquest close
Round 3: 10-9 Turchi close
Round 4: 10-9 Turchi close

CST80 · Nov 30, 2018

IntentionalButt said: ↑

Phil was a very good song craftsman, and in his nick (before the rigors of his career did to his chords what Sasha Grey's probably did to her gash) a veritable ATG vocalist.

I also hardcore Stan the oft-forgotten member of the group, Rex Brown (an underrated bassist, and good producer on a few tracks for Crowbar & Down...)

As for the Abbott bros, though - eh. Never really cared for them (especially Vinnie). I respect Dime's talent, of course, but the pair of them were just a couple of Texan dorks who as late as their early twenties were still proud members of the Kiss Army. Gag me with a spoon. One a virtuoso guitarist, the other a serviceable drummer - on their own, without Phil, never would have become household names. When they formed their own group(s) - it was exactly the kind of white trash fake tough guy schlock that UTF is referring to. Damageplan, and whatever their other group was.
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Totally agree with every part of this post, which is why I prefer Down by a mile.

CST80 · Nov 30, 2018

Round 1 Conquest 10-9, close
Round 2 Turchi 10-9, close
Round 3 Turchi 10-9, close
Round 4 Turchi 10-9, close

f1ght3rz · Nov 30, 2018

Open scoring after 4

40-37 Turchi
40-36 Turchi
39-37 Turchi

UnleashtheFURY · Nov 30, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

Pantera were a pariah, they shocked the world when Far Beyond Driven debuted at number 1, MTV hated them, didn't cover them hardly ever outside of Headbanger's Ball, there was nothing mainstream about Pantera at the time, at all. It wasn't "trendy" or "cool" at all when they first showed up. They succeeded against all odds, they weren't pushed by the lamestream anything. And I'm sure @IntentionalButt can attest to that.
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Record sales don't mean anything to me. Originally isn't a popularity contest. Pantera came along at the right time and had the right kind of sound and image to be successful but at the end of the day it's just a dumbed down version of Thrash. I'll always prefer the original Exhorders take on it as well. After Cowboys Pantera became mind numbingly stupid and we're blatantly trying to cash in on their tough guy image/sound.

CST80 · Nov 30, 2018

Round 1 Conquest 10-9, close
Round 2 Turchi 10-9, close
Round 3 Turchi 10-9, close
Round 4 Turchi 10-9, close
Round 5 Turchi 10-9, close

f1ght3rz · Nov 30, 2018

Fabio Turchi vs. Tony Conquest
12 rounds @ Cruiserweight

Round 1: 10-9 Conquest
Round 2: 10-9 Conquest close
Round 3: 10-9 Turchi close
Round 4: 10-9 Turchi close
Round 5: 10-9 Turchi close

JordanK2406 · Nov 30, 2018

Turchi 10 9 Close
Turchi 49 46

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