Face facts here people.... Calzaghe's record is no better than B-HOP's..

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  1. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    I suppose if you set aside the fact that Calzghe wins 100% of time and Hopkins is at about 90% (60% during the last 3 years), you could make that argument.
     
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  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Hopkins opponents have also accomplished a TON more then Joe's opponents. You guys can claim all day how great Joe's opponents were, but that seems to be based more on you opinion then what they've actually done.

    ANd this "Kessler is top10 P4P" crap neds to stop as well. Kessler is very good, but he's only beaten guys NO ONE thought highly of to begin with.
     
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  3. TFFP

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    Kessler at SMW is a better win than any of Hopkins

    Apart from that, the records aren't worlds apart

    Unfortunately one holds the right passport, therefore is widely acknowledged as a great, and the other isn't
     
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  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins shouldn't be top 10 either.
     
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  5. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    yup
     
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  6. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    This thread just looks at 7 opposition for Hopkins. List their top 25 so you could analyze it deeper.

    This thread is disguised to sell Calzaghe's suspect resume and I ain't buying it!
     
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  7. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How did Trinidad's move up in weight make him become " one-dimensional "? That's a new one on me..

    And Hopkins' thrashing of Trinidad has underrated Trinidad severely. People are basically saying " well, if he got THAT thoroughly then he must be one-dimensional ", yet it's not like this was the first time someone tried to box Trinidad.. but then again, I guess if Hopkins has one thing in common with Calzaghe it's that no matter who he fights and beats he just won't get credit for it.
     
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  8. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly.. Calzaghe's defenders build up his opposition as though it was supernatural. Ofcourse Calzaghe's resume is a good one, but for ****'s sake.. this isn't Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard we're talking about here.
     
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  9. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ofcourse Calzaghe undisputedly beat the majority of his opposition, but If I'm going to make that apparent then I am ALSO going to explain how Calzaghe received his share of BS stoppages, such as those against Mitchell and Sheika.


    Getting robbed against a piece of **** like Ottke isn't something THAT noteworthy, in my judgement.
     
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  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe has a better resume than Ali, that is beyond doubt.

    Calzaghe losing to someone like Fraizer? :lol:
     
    China_hand_Joe, Dec 1, 2007
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  11. MattyC808

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    The fact is everyone here claims that Trinidad was a blown up welterweight however in reality he was a middleweight competing at welter.
     
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  12. Lance_Uppercut

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    I don't think so either, but I'd still place him above Kessler right now.
     
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  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    This is exactly why no one should take you seriously.
     
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  14. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I disagree that they are dead even. I still favor Hopkins a bit more. Outside of the guys you mentioned, Robert Allen in the first two fights was a legit top 10 guy at 160, and so was Antwon Echols. So was Syd Vanderpool. John David Jackson, etc.

    After Hopkins was in his prime you never saw him struggle with anybody like Calzaghe struggled with Brewer?
     
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