Face Off Chisora vs Wilder

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  1. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You must be a sports psychologists.
     
  2. Stonehands

    Stonehands Member Full Member

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    wow. what a great idea.

    honestly if they had just 3 main belts in each division ( theres way too many now but getting rid of all but 1 is a terrible idea in its own right. 3 would be the sweetspot imo. less room for weak beltholders and still would have huge unification bouts more often) and a masters belt for the 40+ guys like you mentioned. wow that would be so awesome. Would make some crazy narratives too, ie. first boxer to hold a masters and a major belt simultaneously etc haha. one could dream.

    Staying on topic, I got Wilder hahaha. He has a reason to be motivated. He knows if he wins he will 95% get an Usyk fight sooner or later and thats another 8 figure payday.
     
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  3. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chisora has been beating the better competition lately, I think he takes this.
     
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  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chisora is also well past his best and can get caught. Be interesting to see if he survives a flush shot
     
  5. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Or in other words, they're both old enough to be getting bored of who they were...

    Which is sometimes a good thing, but not when you're a boxing fan wanting a good scrap.
     
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  6. elrond_buggard

    elrond_buggard Member Full Member

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    You don't need to be a psychologist to assess someone as simple as Wilder. There's not that much to it
     
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  7. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Giving sports psychology advice on how to become a champion again…the pretty simple part is most champs can’t accept defeat easily because that means they have to lose part of their self belief which every fighter needs to have in abundance.
    doubt yourself and your finished.
     
  8. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder by KO, for me.

    People are saying that Wilder is shot, and he is, although I think he is more mentally shot than physically. However, physically, Chisora is well more shot. Del Boy was never quick, skillful, or nuanced, but these days he is as slow as molasses, wide open defensively, and he only throws over hands. His footwork is all over the place, as well. He is constantly getting himself squared up, and even going into a southpaw stance, at times.

    Chisora used to have a good gas tank for a heavyweight, but after 3 rounds he is knackered and backs up to the ropes for a breather. It is only his heart and fighting spirit that keeps him in fights.

    Chisora is wide open to the straight right hand due to his style and age, which is Wilders best (only) punch.

    People will say that Wilder can't pull the trigger anymore. True, against most fighters.
    Against an old, slow, open, and predictable fighter like Chisora, Wilder connects no problem.

    Yes, Chisora may have the better record recently, but stylistically, this fight suits Wilder more. As stated, Chisora is wide open and too slow and defensively lax for the quick straight right hands Wilder will throw. Obviously, Wilder can't fight backing up, and backing opponents up is Chisora's game. Unfortunately, Chisora doesn't have the gas tank for sustained attacks to truly take advantage of this.
     
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  9. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Up to a point, I'd agree with you.

    The only thing is, I think even though Chisora is more declined physically, it's not quite as detrimental to his performance as Wilder's decline is to his... It'll be interesting to see it, if nothing else it should confirm if either has anything left, unlikely as that seems right now.

    The Parker and Zhang bouts were just above the level where he's proven effective - up to a point it's explainable that way rather than flipping a switch from prime to shot the moment Fury 3 ended...

    But then seeming to struggle a bit putting Herndon down, which is precisely the kind of fight he'd have steamrolled in his prime (limited opponent who offers limited threat, pick moment, bang), you have to wonder whether that mental decline and the physical decline that's normal with age and injury have hit him hard.

    Stylistically, I'd have backed Chisora to beat prime Wilder at the time - he'd have backed him up and stopped him.

    I still think that's not unlikely - I don't think Wilder is particularly durable (if he ever was) and while he won't quit, if he's backed up in the ring he'll get backed up mentally as well and that could well play against him...

    I probably have Wilder down about as declined as most do, but at the same time I probably rate his prime ability lower than many do - always have.

    We'll see, it'll be interesting and hopefully it doesn't just feel like a waste of time.
     
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  10. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Being mentally shot is worse than being physically shot. Boxing is more about the mental game than physical. And it’s about as physical as a sport gets, but the mental side matters even more.

    I hope wilder does well n he does win though. It would improve his mental side more as he seems to have lost self belief and has a bit of doubt in the ring, which is why he can’t pull the trigger
     
  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I think it's not just that he's lost a bit of self belief, but also that opponents have lost the fear as well - they now know he struggles when pushed back and kept under pressure, so if they commit to it, they'll probably give him problems.

    A good win or two could potentially reverse both at the same time - then again, times running out and he's already at the kind of age where reaching new personal highs very, very rarely happens.
     
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  12. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spot on.
     
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  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who's promoting this fight, Metamucil?
     
  14. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    This reads like a sensible analysis to me.
     
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  15. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    If Wilder should happen to win, I'm sure you will find a way of affording him no credit whatsoever.

    'But Chisora is shot.'

    'But Wilder wouldn't have beaten him in his prime.'

    Yarda, yarda, yarda...

    LOL!
     
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