Fact or Fiction: Weightdraining reduces ability to take a punch

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  1. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    A lot of Haye supporters are using this as their crutch to support his potential at hw. Kelly Pavlik is another guy who could certainly move up in weight. Would his chin improve at a higher weight?

    Thoughts?
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I think it does. It gives you less energy and takes away your strenght. Some people just dont have a great chin, some people when they move up get better.

    Pavlik is just a wait and see. You can never tell.
     
  3. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** knows.

    It seemed to work for Cotto, but thats the only one I can think of off the top of my head. But whoever says with confidence ''Haye's chin will be better at Heavy'' might as well tell us that the King of the potato people is marrying Kylie.

    There is no way of knowing, and its just biased wishful thinking. In all probability Haye's chin will be the same, only more of an issue against the harder hitters.
     
  4. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    seeing your jones avatar makes me think about his situation. When he moved up to 200 then back to 175, do u think that messed up his punch resistance?
     
  5. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I do. Losing 20lbs of pure muscle is bad for you is weight draining in the extreme, he could never be the same again after it :-(
     
  6. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    It's about the strength in the legs as well, weight draining does not help your legs.
     
  7. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    It largely depends on the individual as to how they are affected by the weight drain. I'll point to Miguel Cotto as the most recent example of a fighter who certainly appears physically more sound and has taken punches better.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fighters like Cotto, Trinidad and even De La Hoya seemed to have gotten less likely to be dropped as they moved up in weight. By dehydrating so much it clearly seems to effect some fighters ability to take a punch. The human brain is protected by a layer of fluid and whether dehydrating has any effect on this protective layer is hard to say for certain without medical tests.
     
  9. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Endurance and physical health in the short term. The only thing that happened to RJJ was that he got caught. He didn't get a glass jaw by shedding pounds. It has nothing to do with taking a punch.
     
  10. Big Ears

    Big Ears Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I accidently clicked no(leave me alone I'm tired) but of course it does .

    There are many(scientific) reasons as to why weightdraining reduces a fighters ability to take punishment .

    Haye didn't look very steady against Mormeck at all(not just in his chin but his legs seemed to lack strenght) and the same can be said for Cotto(in his last few fights at LWW) and several other fighters in recent times .
     
  11. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Cotto Trinidad Chico Corrales are perfect examples of fighters who could take a better punch when they moved up in weight.
     
  12. No. Unless you pack several inches of granite solid muscle onto your checkbones.

    Also you'd need to increase the several layers of membranes called meninges and the fluid between these layers that cushions your brain from your skull and I don't believe they've quite cracked genetic manipulation on this scale yet.

     
  13. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    This looks like a Wlad vs. Iggy Poll :yep
     
  14. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Dude, Try losing 30-40lbs and then get punched in the face. Then gain those 30-40lbs over a few months and then get punched in the face by the same person. Let me know which one feels better. And I think we all know it won't be When you were 30-40lbs lighter. And if you think otherwise that is pretty amazing.


    So then what some of you are telling me is that the James Toney that fought at 160-168lbs would have handled the power of Samuel Peter with the same ease as when he actually did took that power when he was 230lbs??????
     
  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Yes, it does. I know from first hand experience back as an amateur.