(FACT) Spence's BEST WIN Isn't Even In Pacquiao's Top 15 (!!!)

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  1. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Mikey is taller. Thicker. He's the bigger guy. End of.

    And Mikey himself has said that Pacquiao is the same sized guy at 135, 140, or 147.
     
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  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao has the core and shoulders of a bantamweight. Did anyone else notice how much wider and more powerful looking Marquez shoulders and back was compared to Pacquiao? I remember their first fight all the way at 126. And even then everybody was like whoa, Pac is in trouble Marquez looks significantly bigger and stronger.
     
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    Another thing Pac is 5'5" on a good day. Forget that hes listed at 5'5.5" that's dubious to say the least.

    I know a guy who's a legit 5'6". He stood next to Pacquiao in real life. Said he was staring at the top of Pacs head.

    People dont realize or want to admit that he was Flyweight champ. And then when he outgrew Flyweight with proper nutrition he moved up to 122. And Pac made 122 easily. Many times he wouldnt even rehydrate to 130 pounds fight night.
     
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    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    I saw Pacquiao in person from a few feet away at the press conference for Pacquiao-Bradley 2... He's 5' 4"... TOPS. There's a reason Floyd Mayweather Sr. called him a midget and it's NOT because he's only 2" shorter than Floyd.

    :lol:
     
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    i met pac at hooters when he fought barrera. hes reaching for 5'2"... with stilettos... and a mohawk.:naughty2:
     
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    Errol's a great talent, and yes, his resume isn't great. It could be a lot better. But it's just due to circumstances and hopefully he'll get the biggest fights out there.

    I understand your frustration. But there's no need to compare resumes with Manny, especially as you have exaggerated your point.

    Manny is one the greatest fighters of all time. There's no doubt about that. But he doesn't have 15 wins that's better than Brook. And you can't shoot down the win over Brook by saying he was drained and had a bad eye etc, whilst at the same time you're listing Manny's win over De La Hoya as a better win. It's silly.
     
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    Sasakul
    Ledwaba
    Barrera 2x
    Marquez 2x
    Morales 1x (3rd fight he was shot)
    Hatton
    Cotto
    Bradley 2x
    Clottey
    Mosley

    That's 13 wins I got for Pac better than past prime, weight drained permanately damaged Brook. An in shape, primed out pre drained, pre eye damage Brook would be a better win than half this list. But have to take into consideration the circumstances.

    Likewise I didnt include DLH or Morales III for Pac because they were shot and drained.
     
  8. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No he wasnt out of brooks league. Marquez was a warrior but he struggled against many good fighters. Name me a boxer that Marquez beat that would beat Brook? Apart from Pacman because we all know Marquez was pacmans nemesis.
     
  9. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  10. Loudon

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    Brook would also have caused Floyd problems.
     
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    Not all of those are better wins.

    You can't claim that Brook was drained and faded and then include De La Hoya to the above list.
     
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    Not a top 5 WW?
     
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    It makes no difference that Algieri was unbeaten.
     
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    I respect your opinion, but I don't rate wins over the likes of Mosley. He was shot then.

    Brook had a hard time making WW, but I wouldn't have said that he was drained.

    He gave Spence a great fight until the later rounds. Spence had to beat a very good fighter that night who was fighting in front of his own fans with his pride at stake. A much tougher proposition than a guy like Shane who only had name value at the time. But Manny gets huge props just for the fact that most of the guys from your list were significantly bigger than him.
     
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  15. Tomato(e) Can

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    Guy...

    Brook went up to TWO WEIGHT CLASSES to 160 and got his eye socket caved in and face tenderized by Golovkin. And then he DROPPED BACK DOWN TWO WEIGHT CLASSES to fight Spence.