Facts about Vitali

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  1. FrankinDallas

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  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    He wasn't 46 y/o Holyfied going in vs Valuev. 38 and still close prime unlike his best win the coked to the eyeballs shell of Mike Tyson. Lewis should have made the promised and ordered rematch. He chose to run away instead day before stripping.
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    All correct but the "Retired Lewis" one. Lennox fire was gone he was being harassed to retire by his lovely wife & Mother both named Violet. He was going to fight Kirk Johnson who everyone knew was heartbroken at being robbed by Ruiz & Joe Cortez for the WBA title & wasn't in shape . Lennox took on Vitali his #1 contender at a few days notice when Kirk pulled out injured Vitali was 100% Lennox was barely 80 % but Lennox still prevailed. He retired to please his wife plus he'd beaten Vitali when not 100% ready he'd lost the desire & there was no one else available to really test him. He retire at exactly the right time & is a Happily Married man,Healthy, Wealthy & living the good life. He's earned it
     
  4. James Hudson

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    Sometimes the hunger and desire is no longer there to put in the hard work of a 3 month camp. Once ive earned enough from my choosen career im retiring too.
    NOBODY retired Lewis but Lewis himself.....and a long long time ago!!! This must be around the 500th attempt to discuss why Lewis choose to retire when he did and create an agenda
     
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  5. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    Another Vitali fact......

    Beaten by a past prime Lewis
     
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    Lewis ducked a career payday after getting smacked for 6 rounds against Vitali

    Don't blame the man though, his momma saw Vitali and said son you gonna get beat down.
     
  7. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How do you know so much about what was on Lewis' mind, are you his therapist or something?

    Lewis always showed courage in the ring and there is no reason to assume otherwise.

    He whupped Vitali on short notice while being out of shape & old, this is a FACT, not fantasy island ****. If he were prime, could you imagine the state of Vitali's face?
     
  8. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Lewis was close to his prime LOL gtfoh, he was fat, old & at the very end of his career.

    Do you realize how desperate you guys sound?
     
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  9. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Exactly. I remember as a young kid hearing about a 2nd Tyson fight after Vitali and was thinking “WTF… why?! Plus he might not beat Vitali so why is he thinking about Tyson again??”

    Vitali scared him into retirement. Lewis kept thinking about the best uppercut he even landed in his career not even coming close to dropping Vitali. Lol Also kept thinking about Vitali’s 1-2 almost dropping him twice. Simple as that.

    Cuts like that are mainly a freak occurrence. Lewis knew the odds of him getting a stoppage like that were low in reality. Also knew Vitali would have 3-4 months to strictly prepare for him and not that other dude. Forgot his name.
     
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  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    You seem more desperate mate to cover up his performance and cowardice with age and weight. His outing previous to Vitali was his best career win but a year on he is suddenly old, shot and fat. I'd agree he knew he couldn't win the rematch so quit, so maybe in his mind he was washed.
     
  11. C.J.

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    Lennox a coward ????? Jeez are you serious ? Name me one other World champ that took on his 100% ready #1 challenger for the title after a few days notice when Kirk Johnson pulled out injured. Lennox knew Kirk wasn't 100% & was using it as a warm up, Vitali was on the card too. Lennox was barely 80 % against Vitali but he prevailed. Imagine what a 100% Lennox would do to Vitali's face. He'd beaten him to a pulp, where was the incentive to fight him again. Wlad went AWOL, Ike was unavailable there was no one else
    Lennox did the right thing at the right time He RETIRED & STAYED retired !! Now he is living the good life that he worked so hard for. Thanks for the memories Champ
     
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  12. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is all opinion, how do you know Lewis "knew he couldn't win a rematch"? All you guys have is all conjecture, just thinking it doesn't make it reality.

    One more time: Lewis never backed down from anyone, went right back at the guys that KO'd him and was fearless in the ring. There is no evidence for your claims.

    If LL was scared, why would he even agree to fight prime Vitali in the first place? He wasn't in shape and still had the confidence to fight VK - does that show fear?

    Think, man.
     
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  13. Levook

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    People keep pointing to the Tyson fight the year before to prove LL was close to prime vs Vitali. Tyson was shot when they fought and Lewis wasn't nearly as good as his prime, if he was he'd have KO'd Tyson earlier.

    You say 'a year before' like it's nothing, but a year is a long time when you're that old.
     
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  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Lennox fire was gone"

    It wasn't gone before the fight, he wanted at least 3 more. The fire was beaten out of him:

    “Lennox Lewis will fight on 8 March against Ukraine's Vitali Klitschko at the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas – the first of three fights next year (2003) that will end with him back in Las Vegas fighting Vitali's brother, Wladimir, in November.” - “Lewis prepares for Tyson rematch”, 2002

    “Question: What is your opinion of the heavyweight division right now?

    Lewis: I could be around for a long time if I choose.” - L. Lewis, June 12th 2003

    "My mum and wife told me to retire"

    Be serious.

    "Lennox was barely 80%"

    This is just an excuse, impossible to quantify. Lewis was coming off a dominant performance and was a 1/5 favourite over a far less experienced B-side contender.

    From the horses mouth:

    "Some people said I should have fought (Vitali) Klitschko again, but what for? I beat him and there will always be somebody out there, someone else to fight, but I've created a legacy, so why put it all at risk?" - L. Lewis, 2008
     
  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "if he was he'd have KO'd Tyson earlier."

    Complete speculation. Steward thought Lewis was in or around his prime vs Tyson: "There aren't too many heavyweights in history who'd have stood a chance against Lennox that night". Steward also chastised Lewis for being overly cautious in that fight "get this motherf*cker out of there man!".

    Perhaps B-side contender Vitali was removed from his prime, having never been in a war previously and never fought on such a big stage. It can't be quantified, the facts are that Lewis won controversially and decided to retire rather than take a mega money rematch, because he didn't want to risk his legacy. Which is fair enough.