Facts are facts !!!!!!!

If the reason why Arum said that is because he "runs his mouth", then what does that really say about team pacquiaos legitimacy
in this whole affair... I mean when they afterwards said that it was b/c of the blood tests weakening him, and demanded a cut-off
date of 30 days before the fight, was that just their mouth running or what?
Apparently so, cause then a little vid popped up from not so long ago, with Pac getting blood drawn - looking relaxed and smiling -
within 30 days of his fight with Hatton. hmm strange why a cutoff-date of 30 days is suddenly necessary.:think
I also recall Roach and Manny saying something like they would take any test Floyd asks, Manny will beat him anyway.
I think Pacquiao is a great boxer btw, and I really hope he gets the chance to fight Floyd, so why not just take the test,
he still has the same chance to beat Floyd with or without the tests IMO.

 

Fact - Pac was fine with random testing, then changed his mind.

Fact - Floyd should of accepted the deal despite getting very little in negotiations.

 

and floyd gets away with crititism right, for making a new rule and insisting on it while the fighter he is accusing has never tested positive and is a huge superstar in his own right.

floyd made a rule with no fact, evidence or merit,this is why the whole mess began.

 

yet Pacquaio agreed to it without issue.

 

he signed the fight thats why he wants to bail out.

 

Yup, it was 24 days out from the fight I believe, the same as what PBF was offered.

Manny NEVER said he'd take any tests at any time, Roach and Arnum did and soon withdrew the statement once they consulted with Pac.

There's a video on youtube where Pac is interviewed on Pinoy TV after the 1st Morales fight and he believes it was the taking of blood the day before the fight (because they misplaced his original sample) which weakened him, hell it's 5 years old already!! this isn't new news. That had a huge mental impact on Pac, one which gives truth to how he feels about it today.

And btw, all this arguing I'm doing is from a guy who thinks PBF wins by SD/UD.

 

Horse****, Pac was never fine with it.
How about researching before calling something 'FACT'.

 

pac and team were fine with random testing, they changed their tune for whatever reason, then demanded pre set random dates.

Fact.

 

false

 

Show me a quote direct from Pacs lips where he says he's fine with random testing.

You can't.



Fact.

 

believe me man i have tried to show pac fans why there argument is filled with so many holes...they don't get it..nice post but trying to make pacquiao fans see that there boy had to go beyond his first and second reason for not testing is just not possible...

I got a few good arguments over the course of this incident from pac fans but most ignore the fact that "pac had to make more than 1 excuse not to test"...dont worry about it..

They also don't realize that 24 days out gives enough time to juice up and still not have it show....

 

MANNY'S TEAM SPEAKS FOR MANNY HIMSELF...THEY REPRESENT HIM SO IF THEY WERE GIVING MISLEADING INFORMATION (FREDDIE ROACH DEC 13TH, "WE AGREED TO OLYMPIC STYLE DRUG TESTING") THAN PAC NEEDS TO SHUT THEM UP..THATS HIS CAMPhi:

 

I run a business and employ my brother.
When I'm away on business/holiday my brother talks/makes decisions for me. There have been times when I've returned and he's ****ed up, ON MY BEHALF.

That doesn't mean I personally ****ed up.
That doesn't mean what he said are my words.
Oh and when I did have my say I set things straight, just as Pac did.hi:

Accuse Pac of having poor representation, that's justifiable. But just because Roach/Arnum speak on his behalf doesn't mean it's Pacs words.

 

Yeah I respect people trying to back up their opinions so keep arguing... Why didn't they offer a cut-off date closer to the fight initialy though?
I think Pacquiao needs to get better communications with his team and promoter - I mean Roach, who have known Pac a long time,
should know of any issues Pac apparently has with blood tests, and should be more careful when talking to the media,
even a casual interview like the one with elie seckbach.
Apparently no one speaks on behalf of Pac, when they say something "unlucky".

 

FAIR ENOUGH...AGREE TO DISAGREE:good