Facts & Fiction About Williams VS Pavlik: From WWM

Ok.... I'm not sick no more... So finally i been able to get out and enjoy the fresh nyc weather..... BUT i have been keeping up on some of the comments that have been thrown around about Paul Williams, About kelly Pavlik, and about both of these guys as far as the match up goes... alot of you guys are wrong.. kelly fans & paul fans... I as most of yall know is one of the biggest pw fans out here and I have been studying kelly extensively since before the announcement of this fight... I'm honest & impartial enough (even though i am a big pw fan I prefer honesty above all) So Im about to set apart the facts from the fiction of these two guys.... or atleast some of the **** that i can remember


NOW!


Pavlik Is A Bad Fighter & "DEFINITELY" Going To Lose:

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The reason this concept has been tossed around is because his last 2 outings he looked horrible. Vs Bhop & Rubio he looked terrible really.. Bhop took him out of his game plan and made it extremely difficult for pavlik to get into rhythm and pavlik was totally out of it in the mid & later rounds due to that. against rubio he just looked un-impressive really... no doubt he won but its rubio were talking about... due to these lack luster performances a lot of people are forgetting how truly dangerous Kelly pavlik really is. Kelly Pavlik is the same guy who beat jermain 2 times convincingly who was at the time a top dog & took it to miranda... although miranda really wasnt a highly intelligent or skilled fighter... he still showed true grit against miranda and took him out... so dont let a couple bad performances cloud your judgement about pavlik

Pavlik is 1 Dimensional:

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Now a lot of people tend to take this wrong way becuase normally being one dimensional is a really bad thing. For pavlik it really isnt. Pavlik in his last 5 fights (jt x2, locket, bhop, rubio) works behind his left jab and is obviously as most know is followed up by a right over hand punch. Once and a while he will throw some body shots but not enough to where it is a threat also sometimes he throw a long uppercut but its super rare. When his opponent is on the ropes he completely unloads with a barrage of punches but only if his opponent is on the ropes. This isnt a bad thing because pavlik's best attribute is his consistency which basically means that he will continue to do what he knows until he is successful which worked well all but one time in his career. The only time this really could fail pavlik is against a high iq boxer who can form game plans & take away options... bhop showed that very easily... the thing about that is there arent very many boxers in 160 who can do that to pavlik & in paul williams career he never really showed to be a thinker... but he never had to at the same time... if paul shows the ability to think as he fights it will be the biggest foil to kelly pavlik

Margarito Was able to pressure Paul so Pavlik Will be able to as well:

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A lot of people feel that Paul was easily outboxing margarito until the halfway point of their fight and at that point margarito started coming back and assume pavlik will be able to do this... ABSOLUTELY NOT! margarito and pavlik fight TTOOTTALLY different.... margarito likes to stalk his opponent down and beat the **** out of him on the indside ... this is what ****ed paul williams... paul williams was giving up his distance and fighting margarito on the inside and he basically fought margarito where he enjoys fighting and gave him a chance to come back..... pavlik could never do this because he doesnt even know how to fight on the inside.. when his opponent gets in side he just clicnes up and resets the action where he likes to fight at.... in the center of the ring at a distance... pavlik likes to be infront of his opponent at a distance so he can work his jab and unload that right... he doesnt put a large amount of pressure on his opponent because he cant fight on the inside and he cant fight on the run (laterally moving or moving forward) he actually plods foward and just breaks his opponent down and eventually finishes them off with his consistency

If Quintana could do it Pavlik Could Do It:

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Quintana & Pavlik Are Polar Opposites, Styles Make Fights, Paul Had A Rough Outing, Pavlik Could NEVER DO what quintana did stylistically.

Paul Williams Cannot Fight Off His Back Foot:

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Paul really can fight pretty much any style there is really. Inside, Outside, pressuring, off the back foot... The best fight to watch paul williams fighting off his back foot is watching him fight Walter Mattysshe (who was 25 - 0 [24ko's] at the time). Paul would fire his jab while moving back and then would work his way in with all his wild ass hooks and upper cuts... So paul is certainely capable of fighting off the back foot if this is what his game plan demands for

Paul is a technical fighter:

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I've been seeing this alot and this has been annoying me. Paul is not really technical at all. A technical fighter is someone who is fundamentally sound in the craft of boxing, defense, counter punching, & thinking on the feet are usually what makes a technical fighter. He is highly skilled due to his natural god given ability & his work ethic (running up to 14 miles @ a time allows him to have that output) and his chin... george peterson his trainer is doing a good job of teaching him how to use his god given abilities to his best advantage to turn him into a potentially atg fighter (lots of head, body & foot movement, Extreme Variation of punches, Body work, Variation Of game plan. A lot of people say pavlik is facing a highly technical fighter which he isnt... but he is facing a highly skilled fighter

Paul Slaps With His Punches:

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Paul has horrifically underrated power.... Now by no means is he a one hitter quitter puncher, or a guy that breaks you down methodically (pavlik, margarito, cotto) his power is found in the fact that Paul's punches have snap, they are acurate, and come from awkward angles and when you dont see a punch coming your muscles are not in position to brace themselves (neck, shoulders, jaw) and they will twist your neck and head back and those are the types of punches that will get you dazed... i fully believe that paul has the capabilities to tko pavlik due to this... like i said in another thread.... do i expect him to tko pavlik... no.... would i be surprised with that outcome.... no

 

My Fears About this Fight & Certain Keys to this Fight:

My Fear: My Greatest fear & what i kept telling hermit WOULD NOT HAPPEN was pretty much bought to life when team pavlik released the annoucement the same day the fight was announced that they would be testing pavlik's chin and would walk him down.... Now obviously i wont be able to predict everything because i can only know paul wiliams to a certain limit.... but i personally think this is ****ing STUPID AS ****! because what would basically be happening is paul would be gamling with the idea that he can knock pavlik out in under like 4-6 roudns... because if he tried to bang with pavlik past 6 rounds just based on each fighter size paul will get out muscled and lose the war of attrition... he can easily overwhelm kelly pavlik with his output because kelly doesnt know how to counter punch... when he gets attacked he clams up which isnt a bad thing because his defense is kind of under rated.. he catches & blocks punches pretty well... but you cant throw punches every second of every round and paul will have to trade with pavlik if that is truly his game plan.... and if it goes past 7 paul will be fighting an uphill battle because of pavliks strength

another one of my fears is that paul & gp are not taking pavlik seriously.... as a huge fan i dont want to see the fighter & trainer talking about how they are going to try to crack this guys china chin.. i want them to be taking their opponent seriously and respecting their opponent (not from a **** talking aspect because i like **** talking) but from the view that every opponent you have should be viewed as a threat and you should train like your fighting a losing battle.... gp was quoted saying that pavlik has no tricks, they dont have to train for anything special or do anything different.... I dont want to hear that type of ****.... I want to hear that they are taking pavlik very seriously and will be ready for every and anything come fight night..... On the other hand jack loew said something that scared me... they said "PAUL WILIAMS IS A VERY DANGEROUS FIGHT" this scares me because it says to me that they are taking williams seriously and they will be prepared come fight night... i mean to compare and contrast i like the mentality of jack loew so far as opposed to george petersons.... obviously this is the early stages of the fight but its just seomthing to keep an eye out for....




as far as game plans go... the more footage I watched of both guys i felt a lot more comfortable predicting a paul ud... pavlik doesnt handle fighters coming from angles very well, He covers up when he is attacked.. thats bad news against williams because williams will unload 6-12 punches at a time and they will be coming from all angles including head and body... Im comfortable that paul will be able to fight off his back foot and use his head movment to make pavlik uncomfortable and then just unload on him... paul's hand movement before he punches i think will hurt pavliks rhythm, and the fact that pavlik really doenst have one punch power and the type of flush punches i have seen land on paul from faster opponents makes me feel that as long as he doesnt take to much damage he will be able to take pavliks punches... BUT .. when i read that they plan to try to crack his china chin... not just out box pavlik to the ud.... that scares me because if paul tries to walk pavlik down.. that opens up the door for pavliks best opprotunity..

theres a bunch of other observations i have made but i feel like this is probably enough for you guys for now...


So some facts & some fiction.... fears and ideas about this fight


take it how you want... im probably going to add more **** later in the day after i clean my kitchen...



oh... and to make you pavlik fans happy....after reading george petersons prediction of knocking pavlik out... i'm scared paul is going to lose and feel he is going to lose... i think they are not giving pavlik enough respect and are going to go into the fight with the wrong game plan and paul will fall inlove with himself ( not think with his brain and just try to abuse pavlik) and will eventually lose the war of attrition

does paul williams have the ability to beat pavlik? most definitely.... but if he does not respect pavlik and fight with an intelligent game plan he will lose...


thats all for now... ill add more facts and fiction in a bit

 

jt put on a good showing but pavlik won that **** imo.... and i was rooting for jt

 

yeah man... im rooting for paul 110% obviously but before anything else i like honesty... alot of people are confused about a lot of **** both guys do & dont do so i cleared some of it up....


i put my prediction in there again and just to re-iterate.... the level headed what should happen side of me predicts paul by ud

... but the unlucky my favorite fighter will be cursed at his biggest moment thinks pavlik by knockout because paul & george peterson are & will be under-estimating pavlik by the sound of their predictions...



im ****ing nervous as **** for this one and very supersticious

hey these first 2 posts are about as honest (& ACCURATE... a lot of guys seem to have no idea) as you will get as far as this fight goes... i kept it real...

pauls facts & fictions
kellys facts & fictions

take it how you want... you might not agree but what i put is pretty ****ing accurate

 

i guess it depends on the situation.. being the under dog can be good because you work harder

 

yeah ... that was kind of crazy