Falling in?

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  1. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What exactly do coaches mean when they say 'your falling in' ?
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  2. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    In what context?

    As in falling in by shifting your body weight to your lead foot as you step forward to throw a jab?
     
  3. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My coach used to say it as i jabbed or threw a right hand.
    I have heard this phrase used before by others,i was thinking its a well known boxing phrase like 'dont cross your feet,'dont fall in',etc...
     
  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Falling in is throwing punches and losing control of your bodyweight and ending up in a clinch or a non advantageous position.
     
  5. scotchpieirnbru

    scotchpieirnbru Active Member Full Member

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    Falling in means shifting too much body weight to the front foot and basically falling into the punch instead of snapping it out.
     
  6. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    I usually see people not shifting their weight enough as opposed to shifting it too much when they throw a punch.

    Although, I can see how "fallin in" may be problematic. If you tend to shift too much weight you probably also end up slowing your overall movement because you'll be doing the opposite of arm-punches.

    Does that even sound right?
     
  7. scotchpieirnbru

    scotchpieirnbru Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah it does, i always think of it as in and out, do the damage then step out of range. If your falling in you cannot get out of range quick enough.
     
  8. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    Do damage and then step out of range?

    NEVER!!!

    I go in and stay there. It's probably the reason I get mauled a lot in sparring. But I sometimes spar with taller guys with longer reaches than me, so I really don't have a choice.
     
  9. RightHooker

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    Weird....a coach just pointed out that I was doing this today and fixed it for me almost immediately. It's your lucky day I guess.

    Ok, so falling in is when you punch and your weight comes too far forward so you get off balance and move forward out of control. My problem was I would reach too far when I threw my right, come off balance and 'fall in' and then I would bring my rear right leg in too much to regain my balance and then be out of position to throw more punches. This is why I've always had problems throwing combinations because when I threw my right I would be off balance to come back with say a hook.

    There's a simple fix that I picked up and was able to use almost immediately. Make sure your chin is always behind the knee of your lead leg. This keeps you more upright, and you use your footwork (stepping in) and full rotation of your hips to get full extension of your punches instead of reaching out.

    I sparred one round came out when someone else rotated in and then the coach took me aside and explained it to me. Next round I went in and it was so much easier to land punches and throw combinations. If you fix this it will be so much easier to pop in, throw punches, and then pop out. If you are 'falling in' you will pop in, throw punches and then just be stuck there for a second because you are off balance and can't move back right away.
     
  10. RightHooker

    RightHooker Active Member Full Member

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    It's a pretty basic thing (keep your chin behind your lead knee) that one of my coaches should've noticed I wasn't doing it a long time ago (I've had 13 fights).

    The coach that pointed it out is just checking out our club because he's looking for a new gym and it was the first time he ever saw me spar (he's seen me fight a couple times). So I'm happy that it's fixed, but kinda dissappointed with my other coaches that they didn't notice such a basic thing.
     
  11. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    I wish I could find a video of someone "fallin in" just to see what not to do.
     
  12. scotchpieirnbru

    scotchpieirnbru Active Member Full Member

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    No way man, you must eat a hell of alot of punches! If your not throwing then stay out of range. Unless you like getting hit ofcourse!
     
  13. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cheers guys,especially right hooker. I think i would say i was not staying upright enough when punching and thus overreaching with my shots. This would obviously reduce power and speed and could possibly leave me open as well. Ok,back to the drawing board...
     
  14. Yeah its all said. Basically falling is where your body is too far forward which ruins your balance thus your movement. It also opens your back up most of the time aswell if in close quarters.

    It's a experience/technique thing but it can also be a lack of core stability and fitness related habit. Always keep a proper stance or Mister Miyagi will hit you with his stick.

    ps. great tip with the chin over the lead knee. I never thought of it that way, 1 thing I've never looked out for while practising.