"FAMOUS FIGHTERS vs PUNCHING MACHINE"

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  1. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I ran across this just a few minutes ago.

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    Just as the title says, but I find the results *extremely* suspect.
    Amir Khan hits harder than Anthony Joshua?
    Flatly impossible.

    My speculation is that these coin-op machines are rigged to produce results within a narrow bracket and/or generate a random figure on top of the base score to protect egos, surprise people, and keep them plinking in quarters.
    "What the hell? Wesley hit harder than Vince? ****, let's see how Colin and Tyrell do. Quick, go get change..."


    Does anyone know of any confirmed results with real machines?
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is something that crops up from time to time.

    There was a test done with Bob Fitzsimmons, Jim Jeffries, and Sam McVea when their careers overlapped.

    I am aware that similar tests have been done with Frank Bruno and Ricky Hatton.

    Those are the only ones that I can confirm via primary sources.
     
  3. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I don't suppose you know what the scores were supposed to have been?
     
  4. Sting like a bean

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    I couldn't find anything solid with a quick search, but I found several mentions that Jeffries got 1200 and McVey 1300. I wouldn't be shocked if Jeffries or McVey hit harder than Joshua, but I would definitely be shocked of it's by that wide a margin.
     
  5. Boilermaker

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  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Adam Pollack cites a primary source for this in his first biography of Jack Johnson:

    1. Sam McVey - 1,270lbs,
    2. Jim Jeffries - 1,100lbs,
    3. Bob Fitzsimmons - 1070lbs

    I don't place any weight on the test with Joshua, because it was not a scientific test, or even a direct measurement.

    It is interesting to note however, that Sam McVea did better than Frank Bruno in a similar test many years later!
     
  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    It's interesting to note who can generate more power for a machine. But that's all. Because theoretically a guy with no record for knocking people out can score higher than an expert at knocking guys out in real fights. This is because a man can line up all his weight for a stationary target without preparing for anything coming back. It does not take into consideration the guys who in an actual fight can generate even more impact using less force. It cannot register the counter punching ability or the force that generates.

    Think about it. Have you ever seen a high scoring punch used on these machines actually used in a fight? I see guys take a run Up to hit these things. Seems to me the blows that score highest is the easiest blow to see coming. It would only hit a guy tied to a chair.
     
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  9. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    I saw one high scoring run up punch once, in a Honeyghan fight!

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  10. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can hit like a 870 on those machines using a punch I have used in sparring before. The shoulder roll right hand. Great for when a guy leads with a 1-2 when I'm on the ropes. Roll the right hand and counter back with your own. The upper body twist puts all your weight into the right side and you just explode it forward fast as possible.

    I made a yearly tradition of breaking the record at the arcade in the mall where I live. Nothing gets me keyed up to throw a punch like christmas shopping. The music. The crowds. I need to hit something before I head home.
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Visiting the mother in Law is a close second.
     
  12. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Going by the results on a UK programme called Soccer AM a few years back, danny dyer and some other dude hits harder than evander holyfield. Make of that what you will :) .
     
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yes I remember that. I met Lloyd at a dinner once and when I asked him about it he said "the bell went ding and I went Dong"
     
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  15. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No these are gimmicks just for entertainment they are not calibrated by the weights and measures folks. These machines are put into bars to reduce fights and I have seen so funny results from people and never gotten the same reading twice.....the way the machine is designed could not measure the true way they are measured with the physics and pounds per square inch rating..