Fantasy Fight: James Toney vs Andre Ward who would have won prime for prime?

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  1. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward by decision. Toney poses too much and is outworked.
     
  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a surprise :)
     
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  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    He was outboxing Canelo easily before the stoppage. He was clearly damaged from Ward and other hard fights since then, and took the fight was less than ideal time after a fight in which he was badly hurt.

    The Kovalev Ward fought would've easilly beat Canelo IMO.
     
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  4. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Toney beats Kovalev more easily than Ward. Styles make fights. The Ward fight would be close but to me Toney's superior handspeed would be the deciding factor.Then again you never know with the judges (I though Toney won both Griffin fights but the judges saw it differently)
     
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  5. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ridiculous excuses. Actually i always did think that kovalev was an overrated joke. Canelo ****ed him just like would do toney
     
  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney gets turned constantly and is a half step behind all night. boring fight & zero exchanges and tons of feinting. what there would not be is very many clean punches landed.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Toney never faced a jab like Kov`s at light heavy, Kov would have landed more shots on Griffin than Toney did.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Kov was controling Canelo`s offense by throwing the jab but he wasn`t landing it and Canelo was getting through with some counters.
     
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  9. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Whatever the outcome would be between the two, there is zero chance Ward is getting 'embarrased' that's for sure.
     
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  10. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    It's a good fight, and Toney at anything less than his best would lose a tight-ish decision. On his best night, I would put Toney in a slightly higher class H2H, and would favour him to pull out the stops and win a competitve but clear verdict.

    Both men had immense ring IQ's and would produce a performance studied for years, though it wouldn't be an exciting firefight.
     
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  11. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To everybody picking Andre Ward in this thread
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    Gives a **** James Toney whoops Ward badly.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    What could Toney do technically that Ward couldn`t? Was Toney just quicker? Was Toney the better in-fighter?
     
  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney was without question the better infighter.
     
  14. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Aside from jab and move James did almost everything better. He was faster, hit harder had a better work rate, combos, defense take your pick James was a level above ward.
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Maybe, Ward wasn`t great on the inside and Toney was faster at slipping shots.