Fantasy Fight: Joe Louis vs Sonny Liston

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Who wins between Prime Joe Louis and Sonny Liston?

  1. Joe Louis

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  2. Sonny Liston

    36.7%
  1. Ali22

    Ali22 New Member Full Member

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    Who wins between Joe Louis and Sonny Liston? (both at their best).
     
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  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I have Louis winning this but it is no sure thing.

    By the way, this should have been posted in the Classic Forum.
     
  3. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Gotta go with Joe Louis.
     
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  5. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston.

    Too big, too strong.
     
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  6. Ali22

    Ali22 New Member Full Member

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    Mhm I kind of agree but Louis also faced big punchers like Liston. Of course none of them hit like Liston but they were still good contenders. Louis did well against big punchers compared to movers. Although he did whoop all of the movers.
    Thank you. I'm actually new to the Boxing Forum so I'm still working on navigating.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    HARD WARNING!

    The next time I catch one of you posting a thread in the wrong forum I'm going to move it to the correct one
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Louis by stoppage after some rocky moments. He has to get off the deck to win
     
  9. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One of the more dangerous fights against a fellow great Louis could face. He’s never met someone who can match his jab (albeit in a different way), or fights fairly similar to his own style, until now. Liston hits at least as hard, probably moreso, & has the greater reach & chin.

    The problems Liston faces are Louis’ handspeed, flawless combination punching, & crippling power - &, if it comes to it, endurance. But the most telling point IMO would be Louis’ ability to spot & pounce on openings. Liston was a skilled technical boxer but he was not above being found out of position or off-balance…I think it would tell but probably not before Liston had Louis down, or at least in trouble.

    It’s a great fight for the crowd. I’ve got Louis in six, with both men touching the canvas. Liston would definitely be in with a good shot. Just with the styles being similar, I’m inclined to back the guy who does more things, better.
     
  10. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Louis’ handspeed makes the difference
     
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  11. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Pretty much what @Ney said.
    I will just add that Liston is more resistant in terms of getting knocked down but in overall durability Louis might actually be better.
    He showed more ability to endure prolonged beatings and had to be thrashed for multiple rounds to be taken out by big punchers.
    The Walcott fights are a great example here, Jersey Joe was landing some bombs in the late rounds but Louis was nevertheless unstaggered and kept pushing the fight.
    Liston on the other hand could take his beating very well early on, but the longer the fight lasts, the more his durability decreases.

    I think Louis wears him down for a knockout in the 9th round.
     
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  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Too dangerous of a fight for me to choose a certain winner. I’ll say this much. I would WANT Joe Louis to win and believe that he COULD, but I wouldn’t bet money
     
  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I'd mildly favor Louis.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson's didn't. Nor did Cleveland Williams'.

    Jus' sayin'.
     
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  15. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    True but if you compare the attributes of Liston and Louis, I think Louis’ handspeed is the game changer here. Williams and Patterson didn’t have Louis’ arsenal, nor his intellect.