Fantasy Fight Negotiations: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Sugar Ray Robinson

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  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, we now for a fact that this fight would have never been entertained by Mayweather. As all of his fanatics say, he's not a MW.
     
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  2. Loudon

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    No amount of money would have tempted Floyd into fighting SRR.

    He wouldn’t have put his rep and record on the line.
     
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  3. McGrain

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    I mean, I don't know what he was doing against Cotto and Oscar and Manfredy and Hernandez and Corrales and Hatton and Mosley, and Pacquiao but OK.
     
  4. The Real Lance

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    Fighting guys not at MW maybe?
     
  5. Loudon

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    How was any of that the same as what fighting SRR would have been?

    A SRR who in your scenario, would have been going into the ring after demolishing Manny?

    Do you really need reminding of Floyd’s character?

    We know that he wouldn’t fight Manny earlier.

    We know that he wouldn’t let Canelo weigh-in at 154.

    We know that he deliberately cheated JMM on the scales.

    We know that he retired when Cotto was prime and the WW division was hot.

    We know that he wouldn’t let Maidana wear his preferred gloves.

    We know that he took an illegal IV before he eventually fought Manny.

    We know that he said: “We don’t fight to see who’s the best”

    Yet you think that same guy would have fought Ray Robinson?

    No chance.

    His ego couldn’t have coped with a loss.

    He’d never have put himself in that kind of situation.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Robinson would never see middleweight in a modern era. Unless it was for a super-fight with Canelo say, the equivalent of his trip to LHW to take on Maxim.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Do you think he would have fought him for 7 billion dollars?

    I think your perception of his character and mine are totally different.

    I utterly despise the notion that Floyd didn't put his "rep an record" on the line by fighting the huge slew of top contenders and champions that he did. There might have been people you wanted him to fight more, which is fine, but as an idea, that is preposterous. There's really no point in discussing it with anyone who believes it to be honest. People who think you can fight a machine like Miguel Cotto without anything being on the line just don't get the sport i'm afraid.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    How many times has Floyd faced the number 1 fighter or the next best if he's the number 1 himself ?

    Genaro Hernandez
    Diego Corrales
    Jose Castillo
    Jose Castillo
    Carlos Baldomir
    Ricky Hatton (division below)
    Juan Manuel Marquez (two divisions below)
    Shane Mosley
    Miguel Cotto
    Saul Alvarez
    Manny Pacquiao

    I bet there aren't many in the modern era who can better that.

    I've no doubt he'd have faced Robinson at some point. I just don't think he'd have won.
     
  9. scandcb

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    Mayweather would have never boxed SRR prime vs prime. He wanted no part of Pac, Cotto, or Winky Wright when they were in their primes.

    He would have waited in the hope that SRR either slowed down or became injury-prone. Even then he would have made SRR agree to fight on his terms and not beat him fair and square.

    Prime for prime, Robinson beats Mayweather quite easily.
     
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  10. Loudon

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    He wouldn’t have been paid 7 billion dollars. But even if he’d have been offered obscene amounts of money, he’d have had to have weighed up the whether or not he could have lived with a potential loss on his resume.

    Perception of his character?

    We know all about his character.

    Everything I noted is factual.

    You utterly despise the notion?

    Again, Everything I noted is factual.

    Okay, every fight is a risk. They’re professional fighters. Even a low level mandatory is A risk. But there’s different levels of risk. Fighting a worn Cotto wasn’t a huge risk. He’d already suffered two beatings against Manny and Marg.

    Nothing I’ve said is preposterous.

    A guy who was obsessed by his zero and who wouldn’t fight Canelo without a C-W, would not have fought Sugar Ray Robinson, who in your scenario, would have gone into the ring after beating Manny etc.

    I don’t want to be rude, but what your saying is preposterous.

    Again, Floyd would never have put himself in a situation like that.

    Everything I noted paints a very clear picture of Floyd’s character and mindset.

    These fantasy fights are fun to ponder, but the reality is, he’d never have fought guys like SRR, SRL and Hearns etc.
     
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  11. Loudon

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    A guy who’d have been willing to have fought SRR, would not have acted in the way that Floyd did throughout his career.
     
  12. Loudon

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    Exactly.

    On what planet would a guy who would only fought Canelo at a C-W, have fought Ray Robinson?

    It’s ridiculous.
     
  13. The Real Lance

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    We're talking modern era now? That was never stated as the defacto era for this matchup. Still disagree. If SRR can make 160 on fight night, he'll obviously make it in the day before weigh in.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    The way he acted during his career is exactly the reason I'm convinced he would have faced SRR.
     
  15. The Real Lance

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    You realize he's said 160 is too big, even for THIS ERA?? Yet he'll face one of the best MW's ever?? C'mon!!