Fantasy Fight Negotiations: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Then so be it.

 

What I’ve noted is factual.

His ability wasn’t in question.

If you want to say that he’d have caused Ray problems or that he’d have beaten him, I wouldn’t put up too much of an argument against that.

What I’m talking about is his character.

His mindset.

How he carried himself over the years.


Did you follow his whole career?

Did you see all of the BS that he pulled?

I did.

I listed it for you.


He would not fight Canelo at 154 pounds, despite the fact that it was a JMW unification, he’d fought Oscar at the weight, and he’d publicly said that he didn’t care what Canelo rehydrated to.

He would not fight Manny earlier, even when Manny had agreed to EVERY demand.

When he did fight him, he told USADA to put a clause in his contract ALLOWING for a retroactive TUE.

He then took an illegal IV on his sofa, without informing anybody.

He deliberately cheated Marquez on the scales.

He retired when the WW division was hot and joined the WWE.

He wouldn’t let Maidana wear his preferred gloves.

He had to fight an MMA fighter to reach his desired goal of 50-0.


Look at those actions.

Look at his comments throughout the years.


Let me ask you a very simple question:

After taking into account what I’ve listed above, do you think they’re the actions of a man who would have fought Ray Robinson?


You don’t need to hire Columbo or be a psychologist to work out the answer.


His actions throughout the years SCREAM out at you that he’d never have fought Ray Robinson.

 

great H2H idea precisely how fantasy H2H matchups work.

 

He wasn’t tiny in terms of physical stature.

Yes, he didn’t weigh much. But the guys didn’t back then.

Even Marvin years later sometimes weighed in at 157 in the days of same day weigh-ins.

He wouldn’t be a MW today.

 

That’s not the argument.

We’re looking at his character.

His mindset.

All of the BS he pulled etc.

His actions throughout the years paint a very clear picture of his character.

 

Have a think.

 

Sort of silly question this is (No offense intended in that).
For starters, no one passes on that amount. Second, who's footing the bill? What's SRR get, only half a bill?

 

Well we can't have it both ways can we now.

If it's a H2H fantasy fight then the fight happens by default.

 

Still nothing to do with whether or not he'd fight SRR

 

None of that has anything to do with my point. You said he would never fight SRR.

 

k...

 

You don’t even want to debate.

I have said that based upon his actions throughout his career, that it’s totally unrealistic to think that he’d have fought Ray.

Yes, that is my honest OPINION. But an opinion based on many things. But what I’ve listed to you twice now, WAS FACTUAL.

Everything that I’ve listed regarding the C-W, the retirement, the IV saga, the glove incident with Maidana, the weight against Marquez and his comments etc, were all FACTUAL.

They happened.

You don’t have to be a detective.

You don’t have to be a qualified psychologist.

Those factual things that I have listed, are not the make up of a man who’d have fought Ray Robinson.

A man who would only fight Canelo Alvarez at 152 pounds would not have fought Ray Robinson.

A man who wouldn’t fight Manny when he was prime would not have fought Ray Robinson, who in your scenario, would have beaten Manny.

A man who was so concerned about retiring with zero intact, that he fought Berto and an MMA fighter to reach 50-0, would not have fought Ray Robinson.

Do you understand where I’m coming from?

All of Floyd’s behaviour paints a very clear picture.

If you seriously think that he’d have fought Ray Robinson, then kindly explain his actions throughout the years.

Now if you’re not going to address the FACTUAL things that I’ve listed, there’s no point in replying back to me.


Regarding your question, you said 7 billion pounds.

He wouldn’t have been paid 7 billion pounds.

Regarding 1 billion pounds, even that wouldn’t have been a given that he’d have signed for the fight. Because money comes and goes. But a loss stays in the annals of time forever. So I couldn’t say for sure whether he’d have taken it. How much was his reputation worth to him?

 

Do you need a pen and a piece of paper?

It has everything to do with it.

It doesn’t take a lot of working out.

If he wouldn’t fight Canelo at 154, on what planet would he have fought Ray Robinson?

If he wouldn’t fight Manny for 6 years, on what planet would he have fought Ray Robinson.

Those actions show you what his character was.

He was risk adverse.

Just look at all of the things I’ve listed in my previous posts.

All his actions and his comments throughout the years.

That is not the make up of a guy who’d have fought Ray Robinson.

It’s very easy to predict what would have happened.