Fantasy mismatches and classics that go against popular perceptions?

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  1. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This isnt a slight on some of the great names below but styles make fights . The mismatches are those which were meant to be close and the classics are those which were on paper onesided.

    The mismatches.

    Marciano vs Ali - This wouldnt last 6 rounds with Marciano going out like Quarry. Marciano was great for his time , but Ali's speed would make this look like a race horse vs a turtle.

    Hagler vs Monzon - said to be the best middles of all time . This fight would happen in the states (Monzons second only fight there I think), and honestly Hagler would just annihilate him , again speed , but this time Monzon has a better chin and doesnt cut as easy , but it wouldnt last 8 rounds.

    Jones Jnr (prime) vs Foster - sorry Bob, but a prime Roy (remember him) would be untouchable for a man with great hands but slow feet. Roy doesnt lose a second in a 12 round boxing exhibition.

    The classics

    JCC vs Hatton (prime). I know - Hatton got blown out in 2 rounds in a career ending fight , however a prime 26 year old Hatton is tough for any 140 fighter and JCC is a truely great fighter , but this fight Hattons strength and footwork gets him close enough not to take too much damage . In the end class tells and JCC wins on points in a pretty hard fight for both.

    Floyd vs Leonard . Again at 147 Leonard would be prime Floyd wouldnt , yet Floyds movement would be slick , not quite as good as Benitez's , but he wouldnt slow in the later rounds . Leonards power would eventually take the fight and a points decision , but a great fight where both come out with credit.

    Oscar vs Hearns, I think this would happen at 154 where Hearns is probably the best ever fighter there. I do however think the only advantage Oscar has is in ring IQ , keeps moving and more importantly keeps Hearns off balance. I see this as an absolute pick em fight , would favour hearns , but dont see this being oneside at all , would also never rule out Oscars left hook .

    Any thoughts or others which go against the grain a little?
     
  2. bronx

    bronx Boxing Junkie banned

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    Ali over Marciano easy

    Monzon and Hagler would have been a draw

    Jones beats Foster until Foster lands one big one and Knocks Roid the **** out

    JCC beats Hatton in 4

    Leonard beats the **** out of Floyd at 147 and 154 - faster hits harder better chin

    Hearns puts oscar into a coma for 3 days at 154
     
  3. SJS19

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    Very good :good I agree with all of those. I'd air on caution about Monzon being destroyed, but except that, I think you're on point buddy.

    Calzaghe vs a peak RJJ - I think Jones pulls it out the bag, for a very close decision, after getting out worked, and out thought to a certain extent in the middle rounds.

    Hopkins vs Hagler - 50/50 for me. Hagler's macho side may draw him into fighting the fight that Hopkins wants.

    Mosley vs Julio Cesar Chavez Sr - I think a lightweight Mosley beats him. Impressively.

    Vitali Klitschko vs Mike Tyson - VK wins. Too good a chin, too many punches, and he wouldn't fear Mike. Wlad on the other hand, doesn't last two rounds.
     
  4. Arcane

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    I always thought Hopkins would KO 3 of the fantastic 4 (Duran SRL and Hearns) at 160 with the exception of Hagler who'd probably edge him out.
     
  5. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd agree with that.

    I think he has a pretty easy time with Hearns. (Awaits the **** storm...)
     
  6. Arcane

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    Yup always thought the same, Duran and SRL would be more of a challenge especially early on.
     
  7. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah you may get that , but I see it going very similar to the Trinidad fight and hearns landing his best but Hopkins doesnt blink.
     
  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I think Ali-Marciano would go the distance, I think Ali takes a clear decision tho in a tough fight.

    I think Hagler takes a decision over Monzon, competitive fight tho.

    If anybody is getting KO`d in the Jones-Foster fight its not Foster & if it ends up non-competitive then its not Foster that`ll be on the receiving end, Foster by KO is my pick here, Jones will have to be flawless to win this on points & all Bob needs is one shot, tough night for RJJ.

    Chavez stops Hatton likely but I agree prime Hatton makes him work his ass off for it.

    Leonard has some difficulty with fmj but ultimately wins a very clear UD or stops him late. This won`t be a close fight.

    Hearns dominates & stops Oscar, enough said here.
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Hearns is on a different level to Tito, he hits harder too.

    If Tommy lands on Hopkins clean then Hopkins is definitely going to do a hell of a lot more than blink, believe that.

    Personally I see Hearns outboxing Hopkins, too good a jab, more than enough power to keep B-Hop from trying to walk his way in, too fast & a much better boxer from distance.
     
  10. SJS19

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    You don't see a scenario were Hopkins has feet quick enough to get inside (when accompanied by feints or a double jab) then roughs Tommy up?
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    On occasion, yes of course, that`s actually were I see the majority of Hopkins best work coming from but its criminal how underrated Hearns toughness has become & I`m pretty sure B-Hop can`t do enough damage to Hearns to take him out before Tommy gets it back to distance again... then its just going to be a point scoring feast from distance in favour of Hearns.

    Hearns UD (comfortable) 12 Hopkins
     
  12. jeffjoiner

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    Incredibly, I've never considered Hopkins/Hearns before. Probably because 160 wasn't Hearns best weight. It would be a total real estate fight, Hearns combo-ing on the outside, Hopkins trying to make it ugly inside.

    I think there Hopkins is able to get inside enough to carry a close decision. Hearns had pop at 160, but it wasn't quite the too powerful for the division power he had at the lower weights.
     
  13. Arcane

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    Hopkins would be a nightmare for Hearns @160lbs, no way Hearns would make it to 12 IMO Hearns never had the chin to play with the big boys his ATG rep is based off (and rightly so) his abilities at 147lb and 154lb at 160lbs he's best known for getting KO'd by Hagler and Barkley.