FAO: true believers in the supremacy of the heavyweight division. If all three favorites lose...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Apr 24, 2019.



What is the benchmark for you to say "IB, you're correct, HW is the worst & sucks donkey balls"?

Poll closed May 17, 2019.
  1. 1 member of the "Big Three" losing.

    9.7%
  2. 2 members of the "Big Three" losing.

    35.5%
  3. All members of the "Big Three" losing.

    9.7%
  4. All members of the "Big Three" losing and somebody w/ a dozen losses and/or 45+ y.o. wins a belt.

    22.6%
  5. All of the above could happen and I'd still believe HW is supreme.

    22.6%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    their currently scheduled upcoming matches (that is, Wilder loses to Breazeale, Fury to Schwartz, and Joshua to Ruiz Jr.) will you admit the division it utter trash and the worst p4p in boxing? If not, how much further proof would you need?
     
  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    If one loses (which can definitely happen) it wouldn't matter much. I can see Wilder lose to Breazeale for instance if everything falls into place for the Brasilian. If either Joshua or Fury lose, certainly with Fury's low level opponent, it's even worse as I thought.
     
  3. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chocolatito lost to some random Thai guy, a supposed p4p. Can you imagine if Floyd fought some random Thai guy in his prime whilst p4p 1 and lost?

    If that didn’t prove to you that chocolatito was never suppose to be ranked p4p 1 in the first place then neither should any of the top HWs losing prove the division sucks.
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    Wangek isn't "some random Thai"..
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He sure is. Look at his record going into the fight with chocolatito.

    Lmao it’s laughable.

    Can you imagine if Floyd fought someone who had that record going into their fight, and lost!??
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    You mean his excellent record of having knocked out Sato, Mukai, and Salgado? (irrespective of all the filler, which is present on every Thai boxer's record whether they're world class or garbage)

    That's some lazy superficial Boxrecing you've done.
     
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  7. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let’s really put it into perspective.

    Chocolatito fights some random Thai guy who’s last 5 opponents going into that fight are:

    0-0-0
    0-0-0
    0-0-0
    12-19-0
    3-5-0

    He fought 4 opponents with decent records and lost to them. A guy who had a 29-0 record and 16-0 record.

    Compare that to one of floyd worst opponents:

    Berto’s last 5 opponents had records of:
    33-6
    24-3
    27-8
    30-1-1
    31-1-0

    Not legendary but far far better.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    Oh I see, you're retarded.
     
  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So he stopped other guys who padded their records? Lol. The lower weight classes was a joke.

    That’s why a malnourished Pac who barely had any skill could win the lineal flyweight championship of the world, because that’s all it took.

    I’d say the current old man Pac is way way better than the flyweight unskilled malnourished Pac. Yet Pac couldn’t beat the man today at WW. That tells you all you need to know between the talent gap at the lower weights vs normal weights.

    Heavyweights are in the opposite side of the spectrum so they do lack talent too BUT I believe there are still overall more talent than 115 and below.
     
  10. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Numbers don’t lie. You’re ******ed and extremely bias towards the lower weights. Gives them far too much benefit of doubt.

    A guy beats 5 bums in a row, loses to a bunch of decent guys and he beats p4p 1. Just use a bit of logic eh?
     
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  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nothing at all to do with the fact that these guys usually get paid far less and are often fighting just to put food on the table. Thai boxers are also usually converts from MT and are used to fighting frequently(against varying opposition) Not sure if this is a bad troll job or a very thick headed individual.
     
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  12. Jamzy ⭐

    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member Full Member

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    We've got all time greats like Breazeale, Charles martin plus Del Boy and the rest, if you think the Heavyweight division is dead wait until you meet
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  13. Cafe

    Cafe Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hmm IDK if it's the worst, SMW is absolutely garbo now.
     
  14. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    The HWs have to consider things differently and have to develop styles accordingly. They aren't 'trash' though!
     
  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Bored man gets paid. Full Member

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    140 is also a bit of a wasteland.