FAO: true believers in the supremacy of the heavyweight division. If all three favorites lose...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Apr 24, 2019.


What is the benchmark for you to say "IB, you're correct, HW is the worst & sucks donkey balls"?

Poll closed May 17, 2019.
  1. 1 member of the "Big Three" losing.

    9.7%
  2. 2 members of the "Big Three" losing.

    35.5%
  3. All members of the "Big Three" losing.

    9.7%
  4. All members of the "Big Three" losing and somebody w/ a dozen losses and/or 45+ y.o. wins a belt.

    22.6%
  5. All of the above could happen and I'd still believe HW is supreme.

    22.6%
  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Some of the guys who got a shot at Wlad wouldn't crack the top 10 now so its def been worse.
     
  2. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I selected if 2 lose but TBH, if Joshua loses (to anyone other than Wilder or Fury) it would be pretty telling. Joshua has the most wins over the most ranked bodies currently and is considered "the standard bearer" of the division.
     
  3. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The way these fights are set up is to make sure the big 3 win. Non of their opponents is even remotely dangerous.
    Only Breazele has a chance, but everyone has a chance against donkey.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Exactly, most heavyweight "boxing" isn't even really boxing, and isn't even worth seeing.
     
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  5. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    The anti-heavyweight agenda is ridiculous.
     
  6. MarcelCerdan13

    MarcelCerdan13 Member Full Member

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    Personally, near 7ft behemoths(some of whom are freakish enough to dance around a bit) beating the **** out of each other is very worth seeing.The limitations the division only makes it more so. Watching Price gas after 4 rounds without fail is a truly marvelous sight.
     
  7. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Ive not voted cuz i already know it isnt great. But what it is is competitive and that makes up for it. It could have 1 great and be boring, 2 greats that avoid each other and its boring or no greats but enough of a similar enough level to make it competitive. If the PBC wernt such a bunch of jerks or chickens we would be getting most the big fights in the division.

    Dont get me wrong though, i always shake my head when i see any HW in somebodys P4P list and as a big fan of Anthony Joshua i include him too, hes decent, the best in the division but he aint no P4Per. Saying that i do believe alot of people have lost the plot with what they do and dont take in to consideration regarding P4P lists.
     
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  8. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    are you hopeful about the future with all the elite prospects coming through.
     
  9. PunchersChance.

    PunchersChance. Active Member banned Full Member

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    Uh ok then.
     
  10. PunchersChance.

    PunchersChance. Active Member banned Full Member

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    You don’t get it.
     
  11. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    If Fury or AJ lose.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Heavyweight division is the open division. Thus, there is no handicap. The lower the weight limit the higher the handicap you are competing with.

    You did say that HW is p4p the worst division in boxing. So I'm assuming you would admit that they are H2H the best fighters in the world. Along with Usyk who dominated Crusierweight.

    It's hard to rate HW's p4p because there is no weight cap. It's simply about maximizing H2H abilities, poundage be damned.

    Make no mistake. The big 3 along with Usyk are the best fighters in the world. Better than Crawford, better than Loma, better than anybody.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Boxing at its core is one man ramming his gloved fist into the torso or head of his opponent. With the intention and goal of causing enough bodily harm to him that he cannot continue the bout.

    How you accomplish said goal is just an aesthetic.
     
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  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The HW division can also be strategic too. There is less room for error. If you let any big punching HW or Cruiserweight land flush on you the fight is over and you're in for a hellacious scramble to survive. And you cannot just go out there and just launch 1000 power shots Aaron Pryor style either because you will gas and get stopped.
     
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  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Thats not how P4P works.

    If it was all the HWs would be ranked at the top and a guy like Inoue wouldn't make the top 50.