FAO: true believers in the supremacy of the heavyweight division. If all three favorites lose...

Joshua deserves a spot on the top 10 more than Spence does.

Usyk deserves his place in the top 5. If a Cruiser can rank as a p4p'er , why can't a HW?

 

Oh yeah i hadnt considered Uysk. No argument he is in there. It did sound like it but i wasnt implying a Heavyweight cant be in the P4P rankings i meant i dont consider any current fighters from the division good enough, You know im a big Joshua fan but in my opinion he is not quite breaking the top 10. But thats just my opinion and i even accept i may be in the minority on that one.

 

That shouldn't even be a division

 

"Big three"...

Fury, Joshua and Usyk?

 

What is there not to get? You said heavyweights can't be compared because bigger guys don't move as well, when there are heavyweights that can move well. There are also more components to skill than just flashy movement.

 

When I was a young fella and the HW division was superb, both the number one and number two ( Ali and Frazier) were both. beaten within a few months of each other.

Just sayin'

 

Can I admit it’s trash while also saying that it’s like a bad car wreck that you can’t take your eyes off of. Many heavyweight fights are amongst the worst, but bad heavyweight fights sometimes end up having great entertainment value because of how big of **** shows they can end up being.

 

@IntentionalButt

I know your stylistic preference is biased towards a classical boxer puncher. One who is more thoughtful and deliberate. Rather than wild, abrasive, aggressive and powerful.

That's fine. When it comes to aesthetics, there is nothing wrong with having a preference for entertainment.

What I dont agree with is you allow your stylistic preference to cloud your perception of a fighters prowess as a fighter. What matters when rating a fighter is effectiveness. I can name dozens of Welterweights more classically trained than Shawn Porter. Yet I can name less than 5 Welterweights who are better than him H2H.

 

List of fighters, who fight or fought the big 3 recently:
Shpilka, Dupua, Molina, Shwartz, Sefery Stevern, Washington, Breazeale etc would be humiliated by Wlad's leftovers like Ibragimov, Chagaev, Peter, Povetkin, Byrd, Brewster, Thompson or Haye.
Wlad's leftovers would either blow them away in 1 round or just outbox easily in case of Chris Byrd.

 

Will that list was easier to compile than it should of been due to Wilder's fondness to scrape the bottom of the barrel and Fury's joke opponents for his comeback trail. We're not seeing guys like Leapai get shots via their rankings is my point.

 

Leapai would probably be one of the best guys on Wilders resume. At least he beat a top 20 fighter in Boytstov.

 

That says more about Wilder and his opponents than it does the division though. I have Leapai at around the same level as Lucas Browne and that's not very high a level at all.