Far fetched boxing rumors that turned out to be true

Maybe some posts have been deleted by I can't find anything on this thread prior to this post that says Canelo cheated.

 

I never thought Kovalev was a great fighter anyway but it was clear that he held back, for whatever reason.
Seeing as Kovalev virtually came out post-fight and spelled it out for the gullible fans, there really shouldn't be so much debate surrounding it.

He hit back at critical boxing fans on social media: “Given the conditions, it was impossible to win.
“You are ignoramuses since you thought I could win.
“I climbed into this weight with torment & sleepless nights. Because it was a financially interesting offer”

 

Did you guys watch Kovalev under Buddy?
He made him a jabber with nothing else.

It was working aswell.

 

It's the same with Fury (well, did he even get a slap on the wrist?), but that doesn't seem to bother anyone for some reason.

 

It was the posts of his matches being fixed that I was referring to. Fixing matches is cheating. And, yeeees, nothing was strictly being said that he was in on the supposed fix, but I took that as implied and part of the whole "buying judges, fixing fights" accusations.

 

Fury was embroiled with a very long legal fight to contest the PEDs charge and to get it sorted and get licensed, and the whole PED issue is believed by some to be the main reason he was away from the game for so long. I think his critics bring it up all the time, to be honest. The positive test for nandrolone was apparently early 2015, so that's a while ago now too.

 

Well, that's professional boxing. Some fighters get "protected" by the corruption. We can't pretend it's a level playing field when it is not.

 

No clue, but clearly he as at the benefit of kind judges, PED’s paired with a vulture career trajectory and a very eh personality it makes him quite unloveable.

 

I almost never see it brought up. Perhaps a bit when the guy supposed to have sold him the tainted meat said he had been paid to say so quite recently.

That it was in 2015 and Canelo's was in 2015 doesn't make one jot of difference. They're both active and there isn't more reason to believe that one stop cheating than the other just because more time has elapsed. If anything the remarkable shape that Fury managed to get himself into after being a 400 lbs drug addict would point to that it's an still going thing if anything.

Now I don't personally pay much mind to Fury's failed test since I'm quite cynical about the use of PEDs in sports today (that basically everyone on top level uses), but I'm quite astounded about the amount of times it gets brought up against Canelo compared to Fury when they failed in such similar circumstances.

 

We don't have to pretend anything. This thread was about rumours that had been confirmed true, but mostly devolved into accusations, not confirmed, about one fighter.

 

I think Kovalev basically admitted/confirmed it.

 

That's another thing I find peculiar is when fighters' excuses are believed to mean something. Because just about every fighter has excuses after a loss, so, hey, let's throw out Fury's win over Wilder and Lopez' over Loma while we're at it. Let's throw out just about any win ever then, because that's more logically consistent than picking the ones you want to throw out.

Also, I don't think the quote you posted implies a dive, just that he wasn't given the conditions to succeed, likely referring to the short notice. And the short notice was always a fact, not a rumour.

 

I've honestly seen it brought up quite a lot.
I suppose Canelo is just a bigger star than Fury, certainly over the last ten years.
They both cheated. Nothing wrong with people mentioning it.

 

Well, in this same thread you believe LaMotta confirmed a dive becasuse he "admitted it".

I am not referring to Kovalev taking a "dive" anyway. He admits he took the fight because the money was very good and he says it was impossible to win, meaning he didn't fight to win. That describes what we all saw. In fact, yes, I think the only "excuse" he was making was against accusations of taking a dive.

It's not even worth arguing about. You seem to have entered this thread on the ultra-defensive about anything that might undermine Canelo's reputation. You came in saying Canelo must have ****ed someone's missus, on page 2 declaring this had turned into an anti-Caneo thread, which seemed a bit of an overreaction to a few posts that discussed kovalev's dubious showing.
I don't even think it does hurt Canelo's reputation anyway.
It's on Kovalev, not Canelo.

 

I entered this thread without thinking about Canelo at all and was just taken aback who he got shoehorned in there.

LaMotta testified in a US Senate hearing that he had taken a dive to get a title shot. Kova apparently tweeted that the conditions didn't allow him to win, which can of course mean a number of things but seems likely to refer to the short notice and short time between fights for him.

I see a difference there.