Far fetched boxing rumors that turned out to be true

Not too far fetched at all but one fact that shocked me when I had it confirmed was that Sonny and Ezzard sparred.

 

I don’t know about it being “far fetched” I believed it immediately but a few years back whispers started leaking that Wilder sparred Wladimir and Wladimir handled him with ease knocking him down multiple times.
Wlad’s camps are usually very private and secretive but this news of this started to leak on sites like YouTube - Then Tyson Fury said he had good word on it that Wilder was dropped twice. But everyone said that’s just Fury talking trash. Then Dillon Whyte said Wlad left Wilder twitching, iced out. Finally Jonathan Banks said that he wasn’t twitching or iced but that yes he was dropped.
Probably why Wilder never mentioned trying to fight Wlad on his way up or call him out.

 

Wlad lost right around the time Wilder beat Stiverne. There wasn’t much of a window there.

Wlad was also complimentary to Wilder.

 

Euro style of fighting. He switched for the second E. Alvarez fight. Don’t put words in my mouth.

 

Here's the thing tho, every time i give an example or break something down you just deflect.

Kovalev's "Euro style" of a focusing primarily on the jab and a high guard look different to anyone with a pair of functioning eyes in other fights. I dont even need to bring up examples of other fighters like Joe Bugner vs Frazier to kill this notion that anyone whose afraid of getting hit to the body and running out of stamina will just throw pitter patter jabs all night with no weight behind them while neglecting every other punch in the book.

All you have to to is look at Kovalev himself. Wether Canelo "bribed" him or not isn't even relevant to the conversation. It's obvious Kovalev was either shot or didn't try his hardest because he didn't let his hands go. We know this because we've seen him have a much higher output and put more weight in his shots in LITERALLY any other fight you can pull up on YouTube.

Denying this means you're telling millions of people they have no idea what they're looking at and it was simply Canelo being so amazing he shut down Kovalev's offense.

 

I think it’s really interesting that a bunch of people on this forum were finding ways to score rounds for Kovalev. I’ll bet Canelo would’ve been given more credit around here if he’d lost that fight instead of executing a really disciplined gameplan against a bigger man that paid off late.

 

I think it's really interesting that you keep proving my point by deflecting and changing the subject every time you reply.

Have a good day.

 

Who would Canelo have to beat for you to give him credit?

 

I gave him credit for beating Golovkin the 2nd time. Im one of the few who sided with Canelo. Be beat Jacobs fair and square too.

That's a completely different topic tho. Again.

 

Wlad was complimentary to many fighters, especially those he used for sparring partners. Still was an interesting rumor that turned out to be true.

 

Yeah it looks like that but I don't think it's the case because Jacobs Smith and even Cotto looked like complete nonpunchers against Canelo. His head movement and sharpness on the counters is so exceptional that they become hesitant to commit to shots and leave themselves open. Preferring to pitterpat from range because it's less risky than actually turning your body into the shots and risking giving canelo something to counter.

If you watch Canelo vs Kovalev you will see canelo counter Kovalev right hand with a catch and counter left hook early, forcing Kovalev to "pull the punch" because throwing it hard means shifting your bodyweight forward, leaning in and leaving you open.

 

Cotto, Jacobs and Smith all threw right hands, hooks, and combinations. Cotto even dug into the body a few times. ****ing Erislandy Lara the cautious 154 pound outside fighter put more weight on his shots than Kovalev and made it a close competitive fight.

Kovalev would spend whole rounds just throwing out jabs with no weight. To deny this means you simply did not watch the fight or you're acting dense.

No one said Canelo doesn't make people hesitate with his counters. I'm saying it's absurd that a strong 6 ft light heavy weight who likely cuts 15-20+ lbs to get down to light heavy wouldn't commit to his punches against a 5'8 former jr middleweight--WHOSE NOT KNOWN AS A POWER PUNCHER. In the entire history of boxing has a defending champion ever froze up against a non power puncher coming up from his 4th weight class? James Toney was an even better counter puncher than Canelo and he didn't have the cruiserweights and heavyweights shaking in their boots.

Either Kovalev pulled his punches or he was shot. Take your pick.

 

My pick is he was drained, almost got KOd his last fight and Buddy Mcgirt had turned him into a jabber/outside boxer. So he decided to win rounds the safest way he could. As soon as he tried to commit to a right hand he was countered by a left hook or a pull-back right uppercut to the body and so he went right back to just pitty-patting his way to winning rounds.

 

So he held back.

 

A good jab can nullify a counter and is the least likely punch to leave you vulnerable, thus anyone saying Kovalev was pulling his jab for fear of getting countered DKSAB.

Although it can be very tiring when you've been asked to pump out consecutive double and triple jabs, single jabs in a fight require the least exertion.

In terms of being unable to pull the trigger, Wlad in his loss to Fury was still able to pump out his piston ramrod jab.

My point here is that the most likely explanation for Kovalev not using his great jab was he was holding back, because none of the other reasons, including tiredness, scared of counter, or losing his ability to throw a jab make any sense. Subsequently, if he pulled his jab, you would need to understand why, which seems blatantly obvious.

I might have missed something and I am happy to be corrected, but even with his pawing jab and no right hand, Kovalev was doing well on the scores.

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Why does this round stand out?

I don't know for sure what happened but something seemed to be amiss with that fight, and I have been watching boxing fairly objectively for a long time.